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Anyone who is "extremely depressed" should seek a mental health professional. Especially if they are thinking about suicide. "Suicide claims more lives than war, murder, and natural disasters combined." https://supporting.afsp.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=cms.page&id=1226&eventID=4439 "The best way to prevent suicide is through early detection, diagnosis, and treatment of depression and other mood disorders. Learn more at afsp.org or call 888-333-AFSP. Download our Suicide Facts & Figures national fact sheet or search below to view state statistics. You can also view all of our state fact sheets."
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Linda Joy
Effective Suicide Prevention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGjocWVROfc -
Linda Joy
Peter's experience with safety planning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1AAB0UMLwg -
Linda Joy
A template for filling in the patient's personal information for the suicide prevention plan: https://zerosuicide.edc.org/resources/resource-database/patient-safety-plan-template -
Linda Joy
I had to fill in a suicide safety prevention plan before they let me leave the hospital. And this was just for a change in depression medications. But don't freak over medications. I only needed them for a short period of time until I was better. Now I'm not only less depressed, but also better educated about the disease, I know my triggers better, and I have a plan in place. -
Shadow Of The Mind
Suicide does not enter my mind. The depression maybe severe but it’s not that bad that I would want to harm myself. I am aware there are some people in the world who have suicidal thoughts and act out on them. If there was empathy and understanding in others, they would be able to provide support to anyone with suicidal tendencies. The people I come across in my life lack empathy and understanding which is depressing for others around them. There are people who exist in the world who have empathy and understanding which is what some people need. I believe there is always a reason to be depressed and some people get it worse than others. Understanding the depression does help and that it’s healthy to talk about it. -
Linda Joy
You never said we were talking about you. And since you CLAIM to be so supportive and understanding it would seem to me you would be thankful for THE TRUE AND CORRECT ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION. Its not my opinion but that of the professionals. I know you don't ever take my advice even though I have been telling you for years you need to see a professional. And my answer was not for you but for others struggling with depression. YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS PROFESSIONAL HELP IS THE EXACT REASON SO MANY PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE OF THIS DISEASE. DON'T YOU EVER DISCOURAGE ANYONE FROM GETTING PROFESSIONAL HELP!! ITS THE SAME AS TELLING SOMEONE BLEEDING TO DEATH NOT TO GO GET MEDICAL HELP! I'm not interested in trying to convince YOU to get help. I care about those who ACTUALLY WANT TO GET BETTER and are not RESISTING HELP! Your lies about what causes depression doesn't help anyone either. Look it up! Get your facts straight. Throwing around lies about what causes depression can get people killed too you know!! You can shove your so called empathy up your ass, that's not what causes CLINICAL DEPRESSION. That's caused by a CHEMICAL IMBALANCE IN THE BRAIN. If you really wanted to help people you'd be spreading the TRUTH ABOUT DEPRESSION NOT LIES that can cause them to postpone legitimate treatment and kill themselves!! And you wouldn't discourage my attempt to help THEM just because you don't like me or my answers. Its not always ABOUT YOU! -
Linda Joy
Read this article about what causes depression: https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/what-causes-depression *****************NOWHERE DOES IT SAY LACK OF OTHER PEOPLE'S EMPATHY CAUSES DEPRESSION************************SO STOP LYING ABOUT IT!! Stop blaming people who hurt your feelings for your depression. ITS NO ONE ELSE'S FAULT YOU HAVE DEPRESSION!!! This is something that happens inside your own head! And when you quit blaming everyone else you can regain the POWER YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR MOOD AND YOUR LIFE BETTER by getting the help you need! How long have you been suffering because you CHOOSE NOT TO GET HELP? How long could you have been feeling better if you'd only made the choice to get help? Oh well, if you want to whine and complain about your pain instead of DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT... Then go right ahead. YOU ARE NOT THE ONE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. I want to help those who ACTUALLY WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES! -
Linda Joy
I'm confident I've given you the information you need to help yourself. Its YOUR JOB to do the work. You can start by READING IT. If you choose to argue with me instead of learning that's your loss, and your accumulation of pain and depression. So what this boils down to is your CHOICE whether or not to learn the information and improve your situation. If you don't even try then you are CHOOSING DEPRESSION INSTEAD OF HEALING. If you learn, try, do the work, take the meds, IF NEEDED, and you are still depressed at least you didn't CHOOSE IT FOR YOURSELF. AT LEAST YOU TRIED TO GET BETTER. To sit there in denial and argue with the professionals is just plain stupid. -
Shadow Of The Mind
My question is a general one which can include anyone. Of course I am supportive of anyone with depression. I can listen to anyone in person who has it and talk about what is making them depressed. You’re not in a position to tell me I need to see a professional. Talking about depression with family and friends helps. I know your answer is for others struggling with depression. I understand that. People with severe depression that leads to suicidal thoughts is when they should see a professional. Those with other forms of depression can talk about it with friends and family who can support them. Depression is a reaction towards a situation or that the person who has it had been mistreated by someone or a number of people so it is not necessarily the fault of the person who has it. Some people who are sensitive to emotions get affected by the lack of empathy and emotional connection in others. That is not a lie. You’re fond of calling me a liar. I don’t listen to people who call me a liar. Maybe you’re right in saying I don’t listen to you because you call me a liar. In order to help someone is to hear them out but you don’t listen to what I say anyway. I am aware some people have suicidal tendencies and that they are truly hurt. I choose healing any day by talking to the right people but you’re not one of them. -
Linda Joy
I call you a liar because you say things that are not true. That is the definition of a lie. And you didn't listen to me before I called you a liar. You hated me from the moment you found out I believe in God. EVERYONE encounters people who hurt their feelings its part of life. Not everyone gets depressed over it. That's why you learn strategies for dealing with life and its disappointments. Professionals help with this. And while your denial is causing you pain at least those who want help and are willing to do the work can be helped by this question. Even though we all know it was all about you and not to help anyone else! -
Linda Joy
Also putting the blame for your depression on others and expecting those that are not specifically educated in the area to heal you is not reasonable. Its not their job. Its draining. Maybe you could see a pro just once and give them a break. Or just watch the videos and see if they can give you just ONE idea that helps you. If it helps you can pretend someone else asked you to do it. Its not like I made the videos they were made by people trained in the area and are here for everyone. -
Shadow Of The Mind
I don’t feel hate towards anyone with an imaginary friend you call “god”. I am not in denial. What makes you think I will listen to you when you call me a liar? That’s just what you think of me. As I said before, my question was a general one for anyone and not just me. -
Linda Joy
No, its not just what I think. When you say things that aren't true that is a lie. You know this. And I don't care if you don't listen to me. I don't care if you continue to be depressed the rest of your life. Why should I? I care that you might take others with you because of your lies. -
Shadow Of The Mind
I’m aware when people say things are not true that they lie. On the contrary, I say how things really are which you have a problem with because you don’t want to hear the truth from an atheist and that’s your problem. In fact, religious people such as yourself lie about religious bull$hit and you can’t even prove your point in your religious claims. Religious people will always fail with showing physical evidence. It’s your problem you can be heartless and uncaring without realising it based on what you just said. You’re the only one who calls me a liar and nobody else because you have a problem with anything I say and you misinterpret it as a lie which you’re wrong about. You don’t know anything about me so you don’t know what you’re talking about. -
Linda Joy
No, when you say things that are not true you lie. You know this. And I listen to plenty of atheist people. Some of them are actually very smart. I also respect their opinions, because most of the time the only thing we disagree about is religion, and I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. Other people don't point out your lies because they are not trying to help you see your mistakes so you can correct them and take back control of your life and feelings. But since you'd rather argue and stay in denial of your issues I quit caring. There is nothing more I can do so why try? You're not listening or trying to improve. Your sad situation is your fault and until you get help (even self help) you will continue to be miserable. But that's your choice and preference so I have no choice but to let you remain miserable. Just like I can't cause your mental problems I can't solve them either. That power remains in your hands. What you do with it is up to you. -
Shadow Of The Mind
But I do not lie. That’s what you think in your mind. I’m very aware I make mistakes the same as everyone else in the world. Nobody is perfect. I argue the point that I do not lie. It’s you who is starting to fight because it is you that claims I lie when I don’t. You’re the one initiating the fight and I’m defending myself from you. I do not deny anything. That’s what you think and I do not care what you think. I stick to my truth and see things as they really are. If you have a problem with the point I am making, it’s your loss. I like to improve myself which you don’t see because you’re behind a screen and not in my presence in person. What sad situation are you on about? I’m very aware that any problems I may have is in my power to get better. You think you’re helping others but I wonder if you know how to talk to them properly rather than say to them that their depression is in their head and saying they are lying and in denial. Is it just me you say those things to? If it’s just me that you say about being in denial and lying, you have it all wrong as usual.
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