How do believers deal with the mass murder, rape, child killing, sex and non sex slavery in the bible, especially the passages in which God instructs this?
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The ancient history of any people is going to be rife with that sort of thing. Trying to judge our ancestors by our own questionable morality is fruitless, IMHO. 2/26/26
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⭐️Creamcrackered No by God's morality 1 Samuel 15. Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” -
dalcocono Yes, tough times to live in especially if you angered the God of Israel! -
⭐️Creamcrackered So Jesus is Not the God of Israel?
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dalcocono Yes, even He was sacrificed. Are you holier than Him? It is written the He gives and He takes away. He chose to give them life and He chose to take it away. The ethnic cleansing of Caanan was nothing compared to Noah's flood.
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⭐️Creamcrackered I won't forego my morals blindly that would be dangerous,because I don't believe a holy, loving God would kill indiscriminately. I was hoping there was a response that justified the act, what he said in Noah was their thoughts were evil, what I know about the Amalekites is that they practiced child sacrifice, however, to kill the children and babies? I have to question or I'd be a monster, are children and babies, can they be inherently evil?
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dalcocono God decreed the land be cleansed of all the Canaanite influence. They were all to be destroyed. No Israelite was supposed to profit from enslaving them or selling them. They did not obey, and left many alive and they lived to regret it; "The core biblical answer is that the punishment for not destroying the Canaanites was that the surviving peoples would become a continual source of trouble, oppression, and idolatrous influence for Israel. This is stated repeatedly across Joshua, Judges, and later prophetic writings, and it plays out historically in the biblical narrative." Your 21st century morality means nothing to God, I'm afraid. Judge Him now and be judged by Him later is how that works.
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⭐️Creamcrackered If he's my father he'll be fine with me looking for answers.
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dalcocono He'll ask where were you when He created the universe. He'll ask if you think you are the first to question Him over your own notion of morality.
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⭐️Creamcrackered No, if I seek the Truth, that's what God says, ask for wisdom. Seek and you shall find.
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dalcocono You don't seem to be seeking any truth. You seem to be blaming God for His decision to have the Hebrews wipe out the caananites. You seem to be claiming your notion of morality supersedes His. The "truth" of the history is written already.
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⭐️Creamcrackered Not blaming, seeking to understand I am praying on this for wisdom and understanding.
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We (Christians) do not deal with it. You'll have to talk to a religious Jew who can explain why God instructed the Israelites to carry on with the brutal laws of the Old Testament. All the attention is on Christians who are the light of the world, and I know All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. For Christians to keep interpreting the Torah shows that religious Jews don't have the answers to these type of questions. I can explain your question easily, since Christians have sharp swords ⚔️ (symbolically speaking), but really, it gets to the point were Christians are fed up with becoming Torah ambassadors.
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⭐️Creamcrackered
Isn't the Torah God and Jesus the same?the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? -
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But the Torah does not apply to Christians. You shall know Christians by their __________. A) Fruits B) Murder C) Rape D) Other (Fill in the blank) -
⭐️Creamcrackered
But the God in the OT that commanded the murder of children is Jesus or not? -
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There's the Father of the Old Testament, and the Son of the New Testament. Did Jesus not teach to love your neighbor as yourself? -
⭐️Creamcrackered
He did, but he also taught to keep his commandments, and that he came for the children of Israel. The rest is on Paul. -
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Jesus and Paul taught that when a person accepts Jesus - the Holy Spirit will guide them. Therefore, cursed is the man who trusts in the law. (Galatians 3:10) -
⭐️Creamcrackered
Ruach HaKodesh or Ruach Elohim) represents God's active, divine presence, power, and wisdom it's in the OT aswell. It is depicted as empowering individuals for specific tasks (like Bezalel's craftsmanship), inspiring prophecy, and sustaining creation, hovering over the waters in Genesis. Gal 3:10 is Paul. The biggest issue at the moment is looking at the OT in context, to see where Jesus is. He's not in Isaiah, the woman in Isaiah had sex to get pregnant, she was a prophetess, her son is Isaiahs, it is him who she called Emanuel as he was the sign that the Northern tribes would be brought to ruin by Assyrian army, he's age was the sign. -
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What you say is blasphemous. Emmanuel in Hebrew means "God with us." Paul's letter to the Hebrews breaks down the failures of the Jewish system, which never brought them to perfection. -
⭐️Creamcrackered
It does mean God is with us, because the sign was the Northern Kingdom and Syrias fall, by the Assyrians, when the boy reached a certain maturity, 7:15 -16 - He will be eating curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, for before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste. Hence, God was with Judah, in the conflict. -
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The primary Emmanuel Bible verse is Matthew 1:23. It quotes Isaiah 7:14, stating: "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call His name Immanuel." This verse signifies the incarnation, were Jesus brings God's presence directly to humanity.
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