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I doubt you have blasphemied the holy spirit. Your question seems to show a conscience toward God. With that humble attitude, there is hope. (James 4:6-10) However, the undeserved kindness that He gives is greater. So it says: "God opposes the haughty ones, but he gives undeserved kindness to the humble ones." 7 Therefore, subject yourselves to God; but oppose the Devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you indecisive ones. 9 Give way to misery and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned into mourning, and your joy into despair. 10 Humble yourselves in the eyes of Jehovah, and he will exalt you. (1 John 3:19, 20) By this we will know that we originate with the truth, and we will assure our hearts before him 20 regarding whatever our hearts may condemn us in, because God is greater than our hearts and knows all things.
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That all depends on how the concept is taught. Once Saved, Always Saved in "biblical terms" is the example of the Prodigal Son who went from being alive, to lost, to alive again. The key words to remember: "He was lost and has now been found."
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WakkoThe son came crawling back. I think the ball's in my court.
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Jenny's Gone On VacationJust don't blow your second opportunity, Anybody who says you get all the opportunities you want is a devil in disguise.
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Born again. Can you be unborn after the first time?
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Texasescimo
Is that you Nicodemus? Lol (John 3:3-5) In response Jesus said to him: "Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God." 4 Nicodemus said to him: "How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter into the womb of his mother a second time and be born, can he?" 5 Jesus answered: "Most truly I say to you, unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. Here's an article explaining what it means to be born again https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/pc/r1/lp-e/2016045/1/0 -
Cry me a River
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Jenny's Gone On Vacation
Flamingo, Tex made a good point of Nicodemus who was clueless of being reborn . Being "unborn" is the process of conforming to the pattern of this world. Romans 12:2 "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect." -
keo139
As Texasescimo pointed out, if the Apostle Paul was still working for his salvation after all he did (1 Corinthians 9:27), who of us could feel saved because 'we accept Jesus as our savior'? Not working to earn the undeserved kindness of Jehovah God, but demonstrating our faith through works. As James 2:26 tells us: "Indeed, just as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead." 2 Corinthians 6:1 warns us: "Working together with him, we also urge you not to accept the undeserved kindness of God and miss its purpose." We need to continue living in a way that Jehovah approves and tells us in the Bible to continue in his favor. To learn more, go to JW.org. -
Jenny's Gone On Vacation
keo139, Texasescimo said nothing about the Apostle Paul. To further address this thread, Flamingo is not asking if Salvation is based on works. She is asking: "Can you be unborn after the first time?" I clearly stated how it works to be renewed or unborn when a believer departs from the faith. While there are many Christians standing firmly and teaching the full counsel of God's Word, many others who are misguided are conforming to the ways of this world. Without being created in the workmanship of God (Ephesians 2:10), there is no proper guidance. Spirituality, vitality and service is what God demands: https://www.adventist.org/en/ -
Texasescimo
I never received notice of all of these comments. Jenny, I didn't knowed ya was Seventh Day Adventist, I thought you was likely more of the mainstream camp? Flamingo, was John the Baptist saved? Was John the Baptist Born Again? Is he going to heaven? Also, what about King David, same questions.? -
Jenny's Gone On Vacation
Texasescimo, you ask some interesting questions, but Flamingo seems to be a newcomer to the faith. You can't feed them meat from the start.
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No, salvation is something that we have work continuously to maintain. Matthew 24:13 encourages us to endure until the end. We have the example of Judas Iscariot who was chosen as one of the 12 apostles, he developed a wicked heart, then lost his opportunity to be saved as a result. We also have the example of Saul, who was a persecutor of Christians. He was chosen, by Jesus, to become an apostle, he accepted the invitation, changed his name and become one of the most exemplary preachers of the Good News that has ever walked the earth. The apostle Paul was on the road to everlasting destruction, but changed his course and attained salvation. We have free will to choose whichever course we’d like. Matthew 7:13 gives us 2 choices: life or destruction.
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Wakko
Doesn't it say Satan entered into Judas? Is Judas responsible? If I sin, does that mean Satan has entered me, or is it the sinful nature of man? Am I responsible? It seems a double-standard, I mean not being saved by works lest any man boast, yet being condemned for "sins". -
Texasescimo
Hello Wakko. We have to use all of the scriptures. (2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, Eph 2:8-9 is one scripture where they get that you only have to have faith. Paul sometimes referred to the the Mosaic law as "the law", "works of law", or just simply "works". Verse 10 actually shows that we are still supposed to do good works in Christ. (Ephesians 2:8-10) By this undeserved kindness, indeed, YOU have been saved through faith; and this not owing to YOU, it is God?s gift. 9 No, it is not owing to works, in order that no man should have ground for boasting. 10 For we are a product of his work and were created in union with Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared in advance for us to walk in them. We still need works in Christ, just not works of the Mosaic Law. (Galatians 2:16) knowing as we do that a man is declared righteous, not due to works of law, but only through faith toward Christ Jesus, even we have put our faith in Christ Jesus, that we may be declared righteous due to faith toward Christ, and not due to works of law, because due to works of law no flesh will be declared righteous. (Romans 3:28) For we reckon that a man is declared righteous by faith apart from works of law. -
Texasescimo
Consider James 2:14-26: 14 Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: Go in peace, keep warm and well fed, but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it? 17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself. 18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says: Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness, and he came to be called Jehovah's friend. 24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone. 25 In the same manner was not also Ra?hab the harlot declared righteous by works, after she had received the messengers hospitably and sent them out by another way 26 Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. -
Texasescimo
According to Jesus, you kinda gotta do what he says. What work did he give to do? (Luke 6:46) Why, then, do you call me Lord! Lord! but do not do the things I say? (Matthew 7:21) Not everyone saying to me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. (Luke 13:24) Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able. (James 1:22) However, become doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves with false reasoning. (Luke 10:1, 2) After these things the Lord designated 70 others and sent them out by twos ahead of him into every city and place where he himself was to go. 2?Then he said to them: Yes, the harvest is great, but the workers are few. Therefore, beg the Master of the harvest to send out workers into his harvest. (Matthew 28:19, 20) Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20?teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things. -
Texasescimo
For a better understanding, scroll down in the following link to where it says: [Box on page 8] Which is Right? The Bible says: ?A man is declared righteous by faith apart from works of law.? It also says: ?A man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.? Which is right? Are we declared righteous by faith or by works??Romans 3:28; James 2:24. The harmonious answer from the Bible is that both are correct. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1996081?q=%22which+is+right%22+faith+works&p=par -
LizzyP
Wakko, Satan can only ?enter? a person who allows him to do so. His persuasive speech coerced Eve, who voluntarily entertained Satan the Devil?s reasoning, into changing her opinion. Satan did not physically force Eve to sin, he planted the seed, SHE allowed those toxic ideas to become fertile in her mind, then her own actions lead to her death. Now, about Judas, Do you honestly believe that the Devil did not attempt to coerce all of Jesus’ apostles? He attempted to make Jesus, a perfect man. disobey his own Father 3 times. How many times do you think Satan tried to sever the relationship that each of Christ’s disciples had with God? You are naive if you believe that Judas was the only person that Satan asked to join him in his battle against the True God. Judas took the bait, just like Eve and many others. Yes, we are all imperfect and therefore sin. But each individual has to make a conscious decision as to how much we will allow Satan to influence our desires, thoughts and actions.
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If the Apostle Paul was still working for his salvation after all he did (1 Corinthians 9:27), who of us could feel saved because 'we accept Jesus as our savior'? Not working to earn the undeserved kindness of Jehovah God, but demonstrating our faith through works. As James 2:26 tells us: "Indeed, just as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead." 2 Corinthians 6:1 warns us: "Working together with him, we also urge you not to accept the undeserved kindness of God and miss its purpose." We need to continue living in a way that Jehovah approves and tells us in the Bible to continue in his favor. To learn more, go to JW.org.
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