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Locked up!
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Linda JoySo anyone who suffers from depression or anxiety or who has had a traumatic brain injury should be locked up?
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Vittorio 'Sam' Manunta-LowellLunacy is incurable, head aches an aspirin is fine!
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Linda JoyWhat's your source?
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Vittorio 'Sam' Manunta-LowellSimple, plain common sense!
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Linda JoyNah, only the criminally insane should be locked up.
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⭐️CreamcrackeredMichelangelo had OCD. Isaac Newton had bipolar. Beethoven had depression and bipolar. Edgar Allan Poe had depression and alcoholism. Abraham Lincoln had depression and anxiety attacks. Charles Darwin had OCD, agoraphobia and panic disorder. Vincent van Gogh had bipolar and depression. Winston Churchill had bipolar. Pablo Picasso had depression. Elton John had bulimia. Robin Williams had depression. Steven Fry has bipolar. Adam Ant has bipolar. Princess Diana had depression and bulimia. Jim Carrey suffers depression. Ben Stiller has bipolar. John Nash had schizophrenia. Yoshiro Nakamatsu had OCD. Edgar Allan Poe had bipolar. Nicola Tesla had OCD. Howard Hughes had OCD. Apparently, from reading the comments, some want/wanted these people locked up, or sterilized.
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Linda JoyOh sure, cherry pick a couple of cases! lol. Good comment!!
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Hopefully you'll be able to get through it.
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Linda Joy
You too, dear. Praying for you!
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I was diagnosed with clinical depression 15 years ago, what ever that means. Prayer got me freed from it. Not that I don't have "down days" due to neurological problems. But no depression meds are needed. The down times are a lot less strong than they were. My anxiety is under control as well. I still have some anxiety to crop up when going out my door because of two large dogs attacking me less than a year ago. However God is still blessing me.
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Linda Joy
I wanted to like this again, so decided to comment instead. I miss you. What do postal carriers do about dogs? Is pepper spray allowed in your state? You shouldn't have to deal with that. But its not the dog's fault either. Its the responsibility of the owner to restrain their dogs.
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10-4-2017 There is no clear definition for "mental illness". Most people think anybody who disagrees with them is mentally ill.
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Linda Joy
That's one of the reasons I posted the question, to educate those who don't know about mental illness. And learn what they have to share. -
Victorine
That's hardly a question likely to result in genuine education on the subject. If that's what people need or want, they can seek out serious sites on the subject. This is not one, and you are not an educator capable of providing real professional knowledge or guidance. -
Linda Joy
I am an educator, I've worked with the mentally ill, lived with the mentally ill and loved the mentally ill. So I probably know at least as much about it as you do, dear. I can provide guidance by directing them to a professional. And I don't care if you don't like the question it has helped me to help others so butt out.
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ive had experience with it since my sister has schizophrenia
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Linda Joy
One of my sisters does as well. Correction, she did. She passed away.
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When I worked as a rec counselor many many years ago at a residential treatment center, i realized that many of the students(ages 14 to 21) were not able to cope with a dysfunctional home environment. And also were unable to cope with the expectations of school and/or work. A systemic over-dependence on medications eventually added another layer of dysfunction. How families, schools, work and social environments reward conformity and punish non-conformity may also add to the problem. For some reason some personalities cannot or will not conform. If we listen for and respond to the deeper needs perhaps healing may occur. (which may not necessarily conform to the norm-whatever that is) From my own experience with emotional overwhelm, i had compassion for the students that were judged to have a lower IQ. I wondered if they were dealing with an inner emotional storm which greatly limited how well they respond to testing. In 5th grade I was put in the easiest level 3 math class, until one day the level 2 teacher that was subbing realized i could solve any problem she threw at me. I was moved to level 2,(I was very present and at ease that day), yet had difficulty I think due to shutting down to the harsh teaching tactics she had in the level 2 class. What of all the students that are brilliant that cannot access that brilliance because of demanding emotions running around inside them.
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Linda Joy
Different minds definitely work differently. What is no big deal for one person could be very traumatic for another. I hope we find new ways to best reach the potential of troubled minds.
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i am bipolar and schizoaffective so i have generally a different take on mental illness. I have mood swings where i will be depressed for months on end and not want to do anything like i dont even want to eat im constantly sleeping then im fine and i have purposely overdosed and i used to cut myself a lot and the littlest things would set me off
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Linda Joy
Do you see a mental health professional? I have a sister and a good friend that are bipolar. -
dayday600
psychiatrist and its going good but i still have ¨episodes¨, as he says, sometimes -
Linda Joy
Its important to have professional help when you need it. Hang in there!
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I am Bi Polar.
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Linda Joy
Do you see a mental health professional? I have a sister and a good friend that are bipolar. -
Shaky_1991
I see a psychiatrist and a psychologist. I can only work part time so I am also on disability and on medicaid. -
Linda Joy
Its good that you can at least work part time! And more important that you at least try!
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I've had issues off and on since I was in my early teens. I've seen an analyst and she never diagnosed me with anything that had a name.
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Linda Joy
I saw a counselor for my childhood abuse about 20 years ago when my 2nd husband wanted me to. She said basically its like when you have an accident on your bike and it heals, and you are fully functional but leaves a scar. So I assumed she thought I was fully functional at the time. Later that day memories flooded my thoughts and I couldn't get them to stop. So I went back and she said she was sorry she 'forgot' to tell me that would happen! Ten years after that I had a major depressive episode when I got sick and lost my grandson and went homeless. I'm much much better since getting my apartment, but I keep in touch with my therapist! She helps me a lot!! I've also had several doctors that just prescribe meds and never really diagnose me. I had a doctor once that said my heart was "doing the cha cha." I later learned on my own that's called tachycardia. I miss seeing you on here. You post some good questions and some funny ones, too!
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My thoughts are it's common, I think it's 3 out of four people will suffer depression or anxiety at some point in their life, unfortunately there is still a large stigma to it.
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Linda Joy
And a myriad of various mental illnesses! -
⭐️Creamcrackered
I remember reading somewhere that you have to look at the societal structure as well, and it's affect on those living in it. No one ever blames that. -
Linda Joy
I think sometimes society is blamed. I know the government is - for not providing enough mental health care. At least here. They also MAKE a lot of the mentally ill by sending our soldiers to war. PTSD, TBI's etc. I read serotonin levels in the fetus can cause mental illness in the infant after birth. My mother and sister both had TBI's. My mom was hit by a car when she was 12 and it put a hole in her frontal lobe. My sister was hit in the head with an ashtray thrown by her husband. (he claims it bounced off the carpet and hit her in the head so he laid her on the bed and let her sleep!) It caused a lesion on her brain and she was schizophrenic after that.
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I think that we're in a world now where everything is a "disease" or a "disability." There is no money to be made in telling some people to "Suck it up and deal with it. That's life." It's much more profitable to classify a sickness and offer a treatment. For a price.
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bostjan the adequate 🥉
You are correct. Much of what is practiced in the mental health industry is more off-the-cuff than other branches of medicine, but it is a much younger science at this point in time, so that should be expected. -
⭐️Creamcrackered
I think you are right to an extent Archie, ADHD appears to be over-diagnosed. -
Linda Joy
So true, Archie! But they do actually have a book of diagnoses. Some are common and some very rare. -
Linda Joy
ADHD also has a dangerous medication. My son was given Ritalin and my grandson was given amphetamine salts! This medication makes them more likely to abuse drugs in the future. I did feel pressured by the school to medicate them. -
⭐️Creamcrackered
It's difficult as a parent Linda. -
Linda Joy
Well, I've never known my son to abuse drugs. I don't know about my grandson. Haven't seen him in a while. They're both geniuses, though. That's difficult on a parent as well! They were smarter than I am!! It wasn't easy on their teachers either!
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This is quite personal, but.... In the early 90s during the Satanic Panic, when I was a young kid, one of my parents was brainwashed by an incompetent therapist using harmful suggestive techniques such as hypnosis. My parent was convinced that they had multiple personality disorder as a result of satanic ritual abuse that was perpetrated by my grandparents. Including torture, cannibalism, rape, necrophilia, murder, you name it. NONE OF THIS WAS TRUE. All contact was completely cut off with my grandparents and that entire side of my family when they would not corroborate the stories. My parent was told to abandon her children because she was a satanic sleeper agent who could be called upon to do harm to us at any moment. So, this incompetent therapist, fueled by a moral panic her own sick imagination, caused my siblings and I to be abandoned and cut of from our family. I was 8ish. I'm 37 now and I still do not know my family because of this. This was not an unusual story at the time. There are thousands of people who experienced the exact same abuse from therapists in the 80s and 90s. In some cases, family members were jailed over these false accusations and are still serving sentences today. And, my parent still believes these things are true. Due to this grossly incompetent misdiagnosis, my parent has never received a proper diagnosis, and has never been treated for whatever it is that she actually has. My life could have been very different. These types of therapists are still practicing today, and are still using these harmful techniques. I have a huge mistrust for people working with mental health. I can't help it. There needs to be more oversight with these people. "Conspiracy therapists" need to be called out, lose their licenses, and see consequences for the harm they have caused.
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Linda Joy
That's a serious kind of malpractice there! I have only ever been helped by them. I'm sorry your family went through that! (hugs!) I wish you and her the best!
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It's not for everyone.
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Linda Joy
Really? Are you sure? I thought everyone was off just a bit in some way. Maybe that's just because of its prevalence in my life!
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They try and claim that you do not grow out of things like depression and some other things, where that is completely wrong. They amplify your condition in order to say you are a schizophrenic or some such too, and that is completely wrong.
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Linda Joy
That has not been my experience. I used to be heavily medicated when I was in the homeless shelter. Now I only take one med that's considered a 'mental health' medication and its for widespread pain (degenerative joint disease). And I did experience a worsening of my depression on one of my medications and was hospitalized while they changed me to another one. Hopefully we know what's best for us and when something is not right and get help if we need it. But mostly I'm glad medications exist that help and we don't always have to go through life feeling awful. Bad days, yes. But we don't have to always feel badly.
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This is an extraordinarily general question about an enormous subject. There are various types of mental illness just for starters. I really think you need to narrow down the scope of the question.
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Linda Joy
It was intentionally general to see what the people here know and think. Some have a knee jerk reaction to the term mental illness and are not aware what all is involved. But I also knew some people here do have mental illnesses and thought they might want to talk about it. Its part of the healing process to discuss it.
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Everyone experiences mental health difficulties at some stage in their lives. I believe the reason for mental health difficulties is due to external forces such as people and situations that create depression and stress for instance. The person experiencing a medical setback might act out on their thoughts and feelings while others don’t. Mental health difficulties are misunderstood by ignorant people who are shallow minded lacking in empathy and understanding towards others because they are probably a psychopath or a sociopath.
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Linda Joy
Many do experience difficulties, some situational like you said. Some act out and others internalize. But there are also chemical imbalances and genetics as factors. I have a friend who told me she logically knew she should have no reason to be depressed. She had pretty much everything she wanted. But she was bi-polar and her manic swings caused her to be hospitalized. But I don't think you have to be a psychopath or a sociopath to be ignorant about mental illness. And I think society is learning in this regard.
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There are many types of mental illnesses. Some can be cured through medication and others not depending on what it is. For instance long term depression can be cured by medication but it depends on the individual. Depression can be a natural reaction to external sources such as people who are doing wrong to you or situations that can make the person depressed. My answer may focus on depression but that’s an example of a mental illness. There are ways of treatment of other mental illnesses without medication by putting your mind to it or seeking help from the right people who can offer support such as relatives and friends for instance. Meditation or walking is good for mental health but there can be underlying problems that may be unresolved depending on the support of those around you. There is an idiot on here who thinks that people with a mental illness should be locked up. The only people who should be locked up are those who are criminal. If only this user understood people properly they would not be saying “locked up “. That’s just ignorance
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Linda Joy
I agree. I watched a Netflix flick about the criminal mind (and a lot of Criminal Minds episodes as well) but what you don't often hear about mental illness is how some brains are born different than others. They can actually see a difference in brain scans. My sister claims to have borderline personality disorder (I say claims because I didn't see a diagnosis and she sometimes remembers things differently than I do, not because I think she is intentionally lying, but she may not fully understand what she has been told) I read that in borderline personality disorder the brain is changed by mental trauma and you can see this change on a brain scan! I thought that only happened with TBI when a brain was physically damaged. Anyway I think its interesting. -
Shadow Of The Mind
Yeah. People are born differently most definitely. If we were all the same it would be a boring world. Some people have a problem with difference in others because they can’t tolerate the reality of people. Mental health should be understood so as to know who they are dealing with and keep their thoughts to themselves instead of offending the person with a mental health difficulty. Mental health is interesting to read about and observe and see if there’s anything a person can do to help another with any personal issues. I think anyone with a mental illness should be listened to and be offered support by anyone who is willing to help. Unfortunately in the real world there is ignorance in people who are ignorant towards those with a mental illness
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Half the people here need a psychiatrist and better meds.
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Linda Joy
Probably so, but I'd have to see your license to practice before I'd accept any diagnosis or take any meds from you! You're fairly smart, though so if I didn't already have a therapist, psychiatrist and meds I'd definitely consider your suggestions. -
★Stevo
why do you think taking pills is all ways the answer? Wake up
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I hate to sound callous, but people with severe mental illness should be sterilized. The pain and suffering these people experience, and inflict on others and society is incalculable. it should be bred out the gene pool.
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I'm in favor for it.
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The stresses of today have caused mental illness to reach many people.
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