• Without evidence it cannot be proven. The original gospels were written in Greek which means they could not have been written by disciples or early Christians. Basically there is no proof. If Jesus lived, he must have been born. When was he born? Matthew says he was born when Herod was King of Judea. Luke says he was born when Cyrenius was Governor of Syria. He could not have been born during the administration of these tow rulers for Herod died in the year 4 B.C., and Cyrenius, who, in Roman history is Quirinius, did not become Governor of Syria until ten years later. Herod and Quirinius are separated by the whole reign of Archelaus, Herod's son. Between Matthew and Luke, there is, therefore, a contradiction of at least ten years, as to the time of Christ's birth. The fact is that the early Christians had absolutely no knowledge as to when Christ was born. The Encyclopaedia Britannica says: "Christians count one hundred and thirty-three contrary opinions of different authorities concerning the year the Messiah appeared on earth." Think of it -- one hundred and thirty-three different years, each one of which is held to be the year in which Christ came into the world. What magnificent certainty! Edit - generalhavok - that's quite a name you use here! Koine GreekCommon, everyday Greek used by the inhabitants of the Roman Empire and in the writing of New Testament.As opposed to Classical Greek and Modern Greek.
    • Jenny The Great ⭐
      The New Testament was not written in English. It was written in Greek. Here is what the Gospel of Luke says: Luke 2:2 " (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)" Do a research on the word "first" in Greek, and then come back and tell me were you see this so-called contradiction.
    • bostjan64
      Therein lies the problem, though, Jenny Rizzo. Herod died roughly ten years before Cyrenius became governor. If the census was started when Cyrenius was governor, then it could not have started until at least ten years after Herod died. If Jesus was born during the census and during Herod's reign, then he was born before Herod died and after Cyrenius became governor. But Herod died before Cyrenius became governor, so there is no year that satisfies both requirements.
    • Texasescimo
      Was Luke in Error? HOW could Jesus, who grew up in Nazareth and was commonly known as the Nazarene, have been born in Bethlehem, some 90 miles [150 km] away? Luke explains: ?Now in those days [before Jesus? birth] a decree went forth from Caesar Augustus for all the inhabited earth to be registered; (this first registration took place when Quirinius was governor of Syria;) and all people went traveling to be registered, each one to his own city.??Luke 1:1; 2:1-3. Critics widely attack this passage as a blunder or, worse, a fabrication. They insist that this census and the governorship of Quirinius took place in 6 or 7?C.E. If they are right, this would cast serious doubt on Luke?s account, for the evidence suggests that Jesus was born in 2?B.C.E. But these critics ignore two key facts. First, Luke acknowledges that there was more than one census?note that he refers to ?this first registration.? He was well aware of another, later registration. (Acts 5:37) This later census is the same one that the historian Josephus described, which occurred in 6?C.E. Second, the governorship of Quirinius does not force us to assign Jesus? birth to that late date. Why? Because Quirinius evidently served in that post twice. Many scholars recognize that his first term fell about 2?B.C.E. Some critics say that Luke invented the census to create a reason for Jesus to be born in Bethlehem, thereby fulfilling the prophecy of Micah 5:2. This theory makes Luke a willful liar, and no critic can reconcile such an allegation with the scrupulous historian who wrote the Gospel and the book of Acts. Something else no critic can explain: The census itself fulfilled a prophecy! In the sixth century?B.C.E., Daniel prophesied about a ruler who would be ?causing an exactor to pass through the splendid kingdom.? Did this apply to Augustus and his order to carry out a census in Israel? Well, the prophecy goes on to foretell that the Messiah, or ?Leader of the covenant,? would be ?broken? during the reign of this ruler?s successor. Jesus was indeed ?broken,? executed, during the reign of Augustus? successor, Tiberius.?Daniel 11:20-22.
  • I feel the question about whether or not Christ existed as a person of flesh and blood is not very important compared to one about whether or not He was actually the son of God or the Messiah refered to in the Old Testament. Considering the degree to which the western world has been influenced by one or more of the interpretations of Christ's teachings, it seems an excessive amount of time and energy to base on one whom lacked at least corporeal existence. We may not have bones to verify that He was real but we certainly have the impact or echo of what He believed and preached. Whether or not it is true or he was divine seems the more pertinent question.
    • ReiSan
      People strongly believe many fantasies.
  • Jesus was a real person and he really did die an earthly death and rise again. The Aztecs recorded things about the "Man From the East." Historians have said that this man predicted a time when Jesus would come back, in the 1800's, and that particular period of time is called the Second Great Awakening. Jesus came back in spirit. Many Christian historians beleive that He was the "Man From the East." And I do too. Santa Claus' real name is Nicholas Clause. He made presents to give to the children in the villages near him whose family couldn't afford to buy or make them themselves. The authorities didn't like him because they had enough money to make or buy presents, and, after years of free Christmas' for the poor children, they arrested him and put him to death. We have just carried on his tradition and shared it with everybody.
  • Dr. Simon Greenleaf, former professor of law at Harvard University and once recognized by the Supreme Court to be perhaps the greatest authority on legal evidence who has ever lived, made a detailed examination of the evidence relating to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, quoted by L.A. Drummon and P.R. Baxter in the 1986 book How to Respond to a Skeptic. (Chicago: Moody Press, p 117.) He concluded that in any uinbiased courtroom in the world, the evidence would establish the fact that Jesus was resurrected from the dead. The documentary evidence has been examined independently by millions of people, each of whom had the opportunity to find mistakes if there were any. St. Luke, for example, turns out to be as meticulous a geographer and historian as anyone now living. Calling his Gospel "mythology" is like calling Caesar's Gallic Wars "legendary." Contempt prior to investigation is no way to determine the facts. Unlike some religious literature, the Bible is filled with specific names, dates, places. Fifty or sixty years ago it was commonplace to scorn these as legendary or inaccurate, but having such an attitude today requires one to ignore libraries full of research in history, archeology and linguistics. Which of course is your privilege; but the recently-published "Under the Influence" by Alvin Schmidt shows that virtually everything that makes the world today better than it was in Roman times stems directly from the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.
    • ReiSan
      This is a very bad argument. Jesus never existed. You cherry pick data that suits your bias.
    • bostjan64
      Heresay is not generally considered strong evidence in court. People writing books about the life of a man they never met and only heard about, would not only be heresay, but it would be the weakest form of it.
  • Oh, come now. Just because you're an average American, you think people can only understand one language? The average African speaks several. Half of Europe was recently reported to be bilingual. (All Ukrainians, for example, can also understand Russian.) Greek was the commercial interlingua of the Mediterranean after the conquests of Alexander the Great, and everyone except the most isolated peasants could communicate in it. Matthew worked for the Roman government, which conducted business in the provinces in Greek. Paul was a citizen of the world and highly educated. Luke was a physician. Pilate spoke privately with Jesus, obviously in Greek. The sign on the Cross was written in Greek as well as Latin and Aramaic so everyone could read it. Why venture an opinion when you don't have any facts to base it on?
  • Besides the Holy Bible ,, You can always call up JESUS and ask HIM for your self,,call up is just talk to HIM as though you'll talking to someone else, but do it with REVERANCE,,,Because HE IS A GREAT KING . but if you don't try it any way . Some people do , and some don't but HE"S still real,,, just pray and ask JESUS to show you,, or ask HIm something that noone else know,, now remember this JESUS uses people, dreams , yourself..BUT GOD IS REAL...Another way you can try HIM and the best way to try HIM,,is since You're wondering is HE real ,that means you hadn't accepted HIM and is not saved for hell. SO I advise you to say this prayer--Dear JESUS or JESUS, I"VE heard so many things about you ,and so many reading about You, and I have doubt, but if you are real like people say you are Please come into my life and save my soul because I don't know ,help me to believe in you and not lies and forgive me for all my wrong. then tell Him thanks. Then watch HIM,, HE Will Begin SHowing you.. that HE IS TRULLLLY REAL!! because I tried him. p.s. please note now when people see the president whether they like him or not, they still reverance him
  • Look in the bible theirs lots of proof. He kind of made us you know.
    • ReiSan
      The Bible is no proof of anything. Circular reasoning is illogical.
  • Humanity does not survive by bread alone. Life requires other things, and Faith and Love are amongst them. For many, perhaps for all, they are the only really important things we have. It takes faith and faith alone to know that Jesus is real.
  • My original answer presumed motive, which was not the right way to go about answering it. Apologies for that. There is of course the Bible itself, as well as some writings in Roman and Jewish history. In addition there were several writings by the immediate generation after the apostles, those raised and trained by the very men who were with Jesus. That the Bible itself has stood for thousands of years is proof to some, perhaps not to all. But from the Old Testament to the New Testament, this book has been exonerated literally by billions of people over the past 3500 years. Perhaps that may count for credibility in its record of the birth, life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
  • Yes, there is. did you know that books other than the bible have actuly talked about a healer named "Jesus" Not only that but there has also been ancient paintings drawn of jesus.
  • There is plenty of evidence that Jesus was a real person both in and outside scripture, but since the bible is biased I will not talk about it here nor will I post all the proof there is since.......well im to lazy to do that. Evidence #1Thallus Our initial witness makes a contribution of a unique sort inasmuch as he had no intention of making Christianity to appear genuine. To the contrary, Thallus, a Samaritan-born historian who lived and worked in Rome about A.D. 52, wrote to offset the supernatural element which accompanied the crucifixion. Though the writings of Thallus are lost to us, Julius Africanus, a Christian chronographer of the late second century, was familiar with them and quotes from them. In a comment on the darkness that fell upon the land during the crucifixion (Mark 15:33), Africanus says that "Thallus, in the third book of his histories, explains away this darkness as an eclipse of the sun."3 Africanus stated his objection to the report arguing that an eclipse of the sun cannot occur during the full moon, as was the case when Jesus died at Passover time. The force of the reference to Thallus is that the circumstances of Jesus' death were known and discussed in the Imperial City as early as the middle of the first century. The fact of Jesus' crucifixion must have been fairly well known by that time, to the extent that unbelievers like Thallus thought it necessary to explain the matter of the darkness as a natural phenomenon. Will Durant observed that Thallus' "argument took the existence of Christ for granted."4 Neither Jesus nor the darkness at his death were ever denied as factual. Durant summed up the matter of Christ's historical existence for himself by saying that it never occured to the early opponents of Christianity to deny the existence of Jesus.5 Ironically, Thallus' efforts have been turned into the mainstream of historical proof for Jesus and for the reliability of Mark's account of the darkness at his death #2. The Talmud There are two separate books of writings dealing with Jewish law called the Talmud. The first of these is the Mishnah, which is the Jewish code of religious jurisprudence. It began to be compiled sometime after the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 and was completed about A.D. 200. This great body of newly codified case law became the object of Jewish study from which grew a body of commentaries called Gemaras. Together, the Mishnah (the law book) and the Gemara (the commentary) are called the Talmud. Being Jewish, suffice it to say, all references to "Yeshu'a of Nazareth" in the Talmudic writings are unfriendly, but nevertheless sufficient in number to establish beyond doubt his historical reality. #3 Josephus The most important references to the historical Jesus from a Jewish source is from a former Jewish general turned historian by the name of Flavius Josephus. In his writings he tells us who he was, what he did, and his own evaluation of a historian. He wrote of many of the outstanding persons we read of in the New Testament: Pilate; Quirinius of Syria (during whose governorship Rome enrolled the Empire for taxation purposes); the Caesars; the Herods; the Pharisees and the Sadducees; Annas and Caiaphas, who had Jesus crucified; Felix and Festus, under whose governorships the apostle Paul was arrested and before whom he spoke of Jesus; Jesus' brother, James; and John the Baptist. well im out of time for now.
  • None that would convince anyone other than someone who already "knows" the answer to the question of whether there was a historical person named Joshua ben Joseph of Nazareth (aka Jesus Christ). The simple fact is that no one will probably ever be able to prove that there was or was not a historical Jesus. Some have pointed to widespread influence and belief in Christianity as evidence of a historical Jesus. But that’s like saying Santa Claus is an actual person because so many children believe in him. There was a time when most people alive believed the world was flat. Did that belief make the world in fact flat? To paraphrase Nietzsche, a casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. Many Christians accept the existence of a historical Jesus on faith. That is fine but it is worth remembering that “faith” is, by definition, belief in something which cannot be proven. Similarly, those who doubt the existence of a historical Jesus would do well to remember that it is impossible to prove a universal negative. A bumper sticker I saw summed it up humorously: “Militant Agnostic: I Don’t Know And You Don’t Either!” I think everyone would be better served by leaving the question of the existence of a historical Jesus for each individual to decide and instead focus on the message of Jesus. The lessons of Aesop’s fables are no less valid because they are not descriptions of actual characters and documented events. The wisdom in the teachings of Jesus does not depend on corporeal existence.
  • I would say yes and no. I would presume that thousands of people over the world are named Jesus, so in that sense, Jesus was alive and still is. As to Jesus Christ being the son of god, I don't believe. If so called there is a god whom created us humans, then surely, he is not a loving god, but more of a devil god, as we all suffer pain many times on earth.
  • Here's what my philosophy professor says: Jesus was a "person of flesh and blood" - there is not much controversy about that (no more than about anyone who lived in the 1st century). Christ is a matter of faith and tradition. "Jesus Christ" is not a first name last name construction. Jesus is fact; Christ is faith. The Christian tradition establishing the fully man, fully God reading came about in the fourth centruy because of a split between Gnostics (spirit) and Incarnationists (man/god). The four canonical gospels represent the same tension. Mark's Jesus is very human. John's is a spirit, the Logos of Greek philosophy. --Dr. Robert D. Lane
  • I could quote Tacitus, Josephus, and others but that's already been done, and people express doubt anyway. One could examine the Bible like any other historical document. Empirical evidence after all can't apply to historical people or events since we can't recreate the circumstances. To disqualify everything historical means much of what we consider science that was gathered from historical documents and people is no longer applicable, and science as we know it ceases to exist. That's why science allows for 3 kinds of proofs for historical documents like the Bible, bibliographical evidence, internal evidence, and external evidence. Josh McDowell speaks of them in More Then A Carpenter, to see further elaboration on how these proofs apply to the Bible, see: Sir William Ramsay, one of the greatest historians in history, spoke of Luke the Gospel writer as one of the foremost historians in history due to his scrupulous attention to detail which has resulted in incredible archeological finds. To see some of the archeological backing for the Bible, you can go to: And then of course there is the evidence that Napoleon found persuasive: "Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne and I myself have founded great empires; but upon what did these creations of our genius depend? Upon force. Jesus alone founded His empire upon love, and to this very day millions will die for Him.... I think I understand something of human nature; and I tell you, all these were men, and I am a man: none else is like Him; Jesus Christ was more than man.... I have inspired multitudes with such an enthusiastic devotion that they would have died for me.... but to do this it was necessary that I should be visibly present with the electric influence of my looks, my words, of my voice. When I saw men and spoke to them, I lighted up the flame of self-devotion in their hearts.... Christ alone has succeeded in so raising the mind of man toward the unseen, that it becomes insensible to the barriers of time and space. Across a chasm of eighteen hundred years, Jesus Christ makes a demand which is beyond all others to satisfy; He asks for that which a philosopher may seek in vain at the hands of his friends, or a father of his children, or a bride of her spouse, or a man of his brother. He asks for the human heart; He will have it entirely to Himself. He demands it unconditionally; and forthwith His demand is granted. Wonderful! In defiance of time and space, the soul of man, with all its powers and faculties, becomes an annexation to the empire of Christ. All who sincerely believe in Him, experience that remarkable, supernatural love toward Him. This phenomenon is unaccountable; it is altogether beyond the scope of man's creative powers. Time, the great destroyer, is powerless to extinguish this sacred flame; time can neither exhaust its strength nor put a limit to its range. This is it, which strikes me most; I have often thought of it. This is which proves to me quite convincingly the Divinity of Jesus Christ." - Napoleon Bonaparte
  • Yes, Jesus was for real. "Who is Jesus Christ"... a son of God, Almighty God himself manifest in human form or an incarnate of Lord Krishna? Your statement that Christians believe Jesus Christ was God Almighty manifest in human form is wrong. Christians simply treat Jesus Christ as son of God and not God Almighty himself or a manifestation of God Almighty in human form. They are absolutely clear about this facet of Jesus Christ. No ambiguities please! It is a different matter that in terming Jesus Christ as son of God Christianity negates the existence of Jesus Christ himself. God Almighty is pure energy. It does not have a form. The question of God Almighty having a son does not and cannot arise. God Almighty never manifests. God Almighty has ever been a Dhrista onlooker. It never interferes with the creation of his. Neither ever! God Almighty also does not have a form. We cannot see God Almighty but his presence can always be felt like the smell of a flower. Then who was Jesus Christ. As had been made clear above Jesus Christ was not a son of God. Then who was he? Jesus Christ came around 1500 years after Lord Krishna. He also came about 500 years after advent of Mahavira (the last and 24th Tirthankara of Jainism) and about 423 years after Gautama Buddha. More here-
  • Unless anybody can put up a decent argument against "Antiquities" 20.9.1, I'd have to say yes.
  • Yes, there is. Think about it. The same TYPE of proof that has proven that George Washington was a real person. Drawn pictures, multiple eyewitness accounts, tons of Historical books written about each of them........ "Well", you say, "we have documents signed by George Washington Himself !" "Well", I say to you that you have Jesus signature all over you ! You have a conscience that he gave you. You know when you've done something that you shouldn't have. Man has something UNIQUE that Christ gave to him that no other living animal on earth has...........God Conciousness ! The ability to know that the True and Living God exists.
  • First, one must discount the Bible. It is not a historical document. However, there is overwhelming historical proof that most holidays and concepts practiced by Christians have been adopted from pagan faiths. This includes Christmas, a Roman Saturn harvest festival that marked the winter solstice, and the rebirt of the "sun god". The 12 apostles, the 3 wise men, the last supper, and ascention to heaven are the story of Mithra, a Persian savior. Fact. Mithra was sent by the Father God down to Earth to confirm his contract with Man. Mithra was born of a Virgin through - Immaculate Conception - He was born of Anahita, an immaculate virgin mother. Mithra was born in a stable - We celebrate his birth on December 25th -. Mithra was visited by wise men bearing gifts. Mithra had 12 disciples - He was called the Messiah Mithra was also the god of Darius, conqueror of Babylon, He was called - - Messiah - - or Christos by Jews during their Captivity. Mithra made a (Contract) or (Covenant) with Man confirming an older contract with God - The Persian word Mithra literally means - - Contract. - - Mithra celebrated a last supper with his disciples before his death. Mithra died to atone for the sins of Man. Mithra was resurrected on a Sunday. Mithra ascended into Heaven to rejoin his Father. Mithra will return to pass judgment on Man - He was known as the judger of souls -. On judgment day, the dead will arise and be judged by Mithra. Mithra will send sinners to HELL. # Mithra will send the faithful to HEAVEN. # On judgment day there will be a final conflict between Good and Evil - The forces of Evil will be destroyed and the saved will live in paradise forever -. # Mithra is part of a Holy Trinity the - (Father, Son, And Holy Spirit) -, that took human form. # Mithra is depicted as having a halo, (a circular band of light around his head). # Mithra followers drink wine and eat bread, which represent his blood and flesh. # Mithra followers are baptized.
  • my friends and brothers. i am nobody important and probably a newer christian than most people answering this question.but i do have this to say to everyone. whether jesus was a real person or not can be answered in the most simplest way.first i would like to say that too many people take the bible and try to pick it apart. as a result of that there are many many... many opinions. what we are working with is a different view and interpretation of a handful of people in the bible that each saw things in their own way.but the important thing is that they each saw the same something. this should be proof enough of Jesus existance. if that isnt enough then His words and teachings which were completely unheard of in his time(and the fact that they have survived more than 2000 years in the hearts and minds of some of the nicest and most caring, honest, respectable, and trustworthy people that have lived since HIM) should do it as well. but if even after all this you still dont believe, then i urge you to try something. if you would take just half of the time that you spend looking for answers and just PRAY about it. ask JESUS Himself to reveal himself to you. Every day for one month, then you will see that not only did Jesus exist then but also exists NOW. and in turn you will finally know where us crazy christians get our faith, strength,love and compassion from. as i said, i am nobody important, but i know Hes real because He revealed Himself to me this way and i urge all of you to do the same. may the truth spread like wildfire. God bless you all.
  • 98% of the people in the world who practice any type religion do so in the religion of their birth parents. knowing this..I "as a 44 year old christian" and after much research...I am now an AGNostic...I hope there is a GOD and Jesus...I don;t know about GOD>..but it is doubtful to me that JESUS ever even existed... ANyONE going around healing the blind and ressurecting the dead would surely be written about at the time. SOmeone here simply show me one document written when Christ actually lived..just one....anything...of course ..even the Gospels were written 70-140 years after JESUS death......and there were some 75 gospels written out there at that time...only 4 made it into the bible>..AND THE 4 that did have little or nothing to say of the life of Jesus ..just his last year or so...what happened to years 20- 30? I;m quite skeptical... Im listening....
  • Jesus? Maybe... Maybe not... BUT... Look up Herod & several other Roman persons in Matthew, Mark, Luke & John & you MIGHT see if you bother to l0ok up in Roman Archeology that THEY WERE REAL PEOPLE mentioned in various ways in the SCripture... Also look up the various locations mentioned in the Bible you may be a believer...
  • why are we only thinking about jesus when GOD is everything. its a shame that the bible isn't sure and doesn't have enough proof about jesus. that i don't understand, like the shooting at vt this week. if they knew someone got shoot at 7;15 am then how come no one knew what to do at that time. meaning there is reason and action with decisions you make. i'm not sure with those actions as well as the bible's. let's not wait to hope but do what god would do. love and care for all humankind.p.s if muslims and christians make up most of the worlds religion? why do we still have racism, killing and power struggles. one love is the true god. ask this question religion? if you counldn't hear, see, and talk. how would you know about god. my answer is that its in you and you are god like that created you. so you have the powers already.
  • Jesus did exist but I doubt if he had any "powers" as such.
  • We have no "proof", no. Mind you, we have no "proof" of the existence of Julius Ceasar - just evidence. We do have evidence though - in the writings mentioned mainly, as well as the numerous accounts of his life and so on that never made it to "the bible". Personally I think, on balance, the evidence suggests there was a real Jesus character who was a charismatic preacher and healer around that time. Whether the gospels have any real accuracy as to what he said and did is extremely debatable - they were written at least one lifetime after his death, giving 70 years for tales to be told and re-told until they were "true, I swear it!", changed around to suit the barrow someone was trying to push etc. etc. etc.
  • I think he was a real man and a great prophet. Like many before and many after him. That's it.
  • Here's my proof in one word.... ISRAEL :-)
  • This is a bit of a twist on the question, but if Jesus really existed, why is he so non-existent in todays world. This makes a very strong argument for his non-existence because we have never seen him. In my opinion, I think that if Jesus really existed and wants us to follow him, he should make himself known much more than he has in the past because he makes it much harder for everyone to believe in him. No one in our lifetime has seen him, or may never see him. But we would have a much more perfect world if Jesus existed and make himself known so EVERYONE can believe in him. I have been a strong believer of Christ for most of my life, but the more I see and learn, the harder it is to stay a follower and believe that he really existed because it seems that he is so no existent today.
    • Linda Joy
      He exists today! His work continues through the hands of The Church which is His body today. I can testify to you that he kept me fed clothed and safe the entire two years I waited for my disability case to go to court when I had NO MONEY WHATSOEVER! You have to exercise faith before the proof comes.
  • o come on theres no evidance what so ever to say jesus was a real person. everything writen about him was writen well after he soposedly died something like 60 years by josephus, and the 4 gosples forget about it! the bible says; the gosple acording to mark,luke,john,matt. not written by mark,luke,john,matt clearly stating that some one else wrote the gosples. why did'nt any one who lived in jesus time write some thing down about jesus? not one person that met jesus wrote about him why? cus he never existed! and please don't say hey theres proof of jesus and refer to some historian that was born after jesus died. I would like every one to watch-the truth about the jesus myth on youtube it will open your eyes.
  • none what so ever
  • Is there any proof he wasn't?
  • I find it amazing that people believe in algore, but not Jesus. Unreal.
  • In most, if not all, religions things are accepted upon faith and do not require proof as defined by society. Religion is is to guide and nurture the spirit of man which is supposed to be reflected in the thoughts and actions of the physical man. Of course, that is not always the case, since most people are much more concerned with the physical aspects of their lives rather than the spiritual aspects. And far too many times what is preached is not practiced, which makes it seem very hypocritical and shallow.
  • After much debate, I have come to the conclusion that "Jesus Christ" never existed as an historical, 'real' person. However the 'Jesus Story' has been at the center of mankind's religion since ancient times, and has been a theme that has been repeated undeniably many times. The 'Jesus Story' draws remarkable parallels to those of Horus (of Egyptian mythology), Mithras (of Roman mythology), and Dionysus ( of Greek mythology) to name but a few. The difference between 'modern' Christianty, and the ancient religions of Egypt, Rome, Persia, Asia, and Greece (for example), is that the ancients never believed that their Gods were real historical figures. They understood that these 'stories' were just that, allegorical, and mythical. The power of myth was understood by the ancients and they knew that through the meduim of mythology, the spiritual, and important messages, about divinty, and their one true God, would be timeless. Whereas an historical reference only has true relevance to that particular time period, or lifetime of that particular person. So understanding the ancient's use of myth, it should come as no surprise to see that many ancient themes (that have been repeated over and over and over in many different forms) can be found in the 'Holy Bible'. The Bible is a re-hash of the teachings, wisdom, knowledge and stories, of the ancient mystery religions. Some would say the Bible almost directly plagiarises the Ancient Egyptian Religion. A core belief of original ancient Christianity, was that we human beings are all made in the image of the one true God, and that the 'Christos' or 'Christ'(the soul, or divinity, given to us by God) is within each of us. Sadly the day the early church Fathers proclaimed the 'Jesus Story' as being literal, and being historical, the belief changed from being 'Jesus (the Christos, the divine) is 'in' man, to Jesus Christ was 'a' man. So know according to modern Christian teaching, based on the so called 'literal' and 'historical' texts of the Bible's, Jesus the Christ, is the only one who is divine, and for each of us to achieve divinity we must suffer, as did Christ, to be awarded eternal life, and a place in heaven when we die. This hugely subtracts from the original meanings and teachings of ancient Christianity, where Jesus is a metaphor, for each and everyone of us. We are all divine and we are all resurrected (metaphorically) as was the mythical Jesus, on a daily basis. Every night we die, and each morning we are resurrected, and re-born, re-fresh, free of the burdens of yesterday, ready to start anew. Don't look to the agony, and suffering of the crucifix, for divine inspiration. Instead look within yourself, because the answers have been planted there long ago. We all have the ability to become divine beings, it's within all of us. Interpreting the mythological story of Jesus, as it was originally intended to be understood, we discover the clues to our own divinity. Understanding that Jesus was not an historical person, does not change vast wisdom, and knowledge, the Bible contains. It just enables us to better interpret it, and it gives a relevance that is not limited to the 1st century AD. You have to look for the answers in order to find them, don't just accept what people tell you to be true.
  • I recomend to watch the movie called Zeitgeist, enter their website its free and uploaded on the internet. A huge amount of historians from that period that never even mention Jesus, also Josephus is not a cofiable source make some research. Also tacitus and the other two historians that are mentioned as proofs never wrote the word jesus, thay anly referd to the christ and do not spend to much time speaking about him, so not much relevance. Not even the famous Plutarch writes about Jesus. If you want to be factual do not confuse religion, base on faith, to science, base on logics and proofs. Religion is not wrong but it is just not based on this things, in can be a useful element to build principles and all that stuff. Personally i think there is a moment in our maduration that we must reach by our own means what is the right or wrong, by reasoning, expereience, deduction, common sense or whatever. This way you have the absolute confidence and believe in yourself, also you act by the principles forged by living your life. sorry for my grammar and language mistakes, english is my second spoken language.
  • so what if jesus was real....what seperates him from all of the other crazy people that say they are god? or gods son? sure, he affected enough ppl to get widely known, and his teachings have been practiced since the day he died, but did you ever stop to think that maybe he was just an honset good hearted man that wanted the best for everybody? all im saying is that if they're was a real god,and he really loved everybody and everthing. then why would he sit back and watch ppl suffer. the holocaust, WW1, WW2, veitnam, 9-11!. why would he let innocent ppl die? mothers, fathers, sons, daughters. the list goes on and on. he has power of saten, why doesn't he just kill him? then the question of fauth comes along..."just believe". it just doesnt make sense that a "spirit" came out of no where and created the world. where did the spirit come from? how was it created? it's funny to me how christains argue against the big bang theory. shouldn't the odds of the big bang occuring be just as much as there being a god? if you ask me, the possibility of there being a god sounds much more farfetched. the funny thing is that i believe in god, it's just everthing else (science wise) sounds much more....believable and true. evolution? it just makes perfect sense! bit who knows...all i can say right now(although i have doubts) i believe that jesus was a real person, and that he was and is gods son.
  • You may find this surprising, but there are many people in the world today who actually think that Jesus is nothing more than a fantasy figure that various secret societies created 2,000 years ago. Allegedly, His name belongs in the same fictional writings that contain such fairy-tale characters as Peter Pan, Hercules, and Snow White and the seven dwarfs. Gerald Massey, in his book, Gnostic and Historic Christianity, has “informed” us that “[w]hether considered as the God made human, or as man made divine, this character [Jesus—EL] never existed as a person” (1985, p. 22). Skeptics like Massey, Acharya (1999), and others believe that Christians have been deceived into thinking that there really was a man named Jesus, when, in fact, He never lived. How do those of us who believe in the historicity of Jesus Christ respond to such allegations? Can we really know that there was a sinless, miracle-working, death-defying man named Jesus who lived upon the Earth approximately 2,000 years ago, or have we accepted His existence blindly? Even though the New Testament proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that Jesus actually lived, it is by no means the only historical evidence available. Around the year A.D. 94, a Jewish historian by the name of Josephus mentioned Jesus’ name twice in his book, Antiquities of the Jews. In section 18 of that work, Josephus wrote: “And there arose about this time Jesus, a wise man, if indeed we should call him a man; for he was a doer of marvelous deeds, a teacher of men who receive the truth with pleasure” (emp. added). Then, in section 20, Josephus documented how a man named Ananus brought before the Sanhedrin “a man named James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ, and certain others” (emp. added). About 20 years later, Tacitus, a Roman historian, wrote a book surveying the history of Rome. In it he described how Nero (the Roman emperor) “punished with every refinement the notoriously depraved Christians (as they were popularly called).” He went on to write that “their originator, Christ, had been executed in Tiberius’ reign by the governor of Judea, Pontius Pilatus” (Annals 15:44, emp. added). Even though Tacitus, Josephus, and other historians from the first and second centuries A.D. were not followers of Christ, they did have something to say about Him—and they even verified that Jesus was a real person Who was so famous that He even attracted the attention of the Roman emperor himself! Another obvious reason to believe that Jesus was a real person is because our entire dating method is based upon His existence. The letters “B.C.” stand for “before Christ,” and the letters “A.D.” (standing for Anno Domini) mean “in the year of the Lord.” So when a history teacher speaks of Alexander the Great ruling much of the world in 330 B.C., he or she is admitting that Alexander lived about 330 years before Jesus was born. Even though this is only a sampling of the evidence relating to the man known as Jesus, it is enough to prove that He was a real person, and not just some imaginary character. We do not accept His existence blindly—it is a historical fact!
  • No. There is some self serving hearsay - and that is it. . I know I'll get DR'd for saying the obvious but Christianity depends on faith - there is no evidence other historical or scientific that one single lick of it's true. . +5
  • Read the book by Josh Mcdowell "Evidence that demands a verdict" and then come back and tell me.
  • Im going to write my own book full of contradictions and call it the Booble.And we can use it to prove itself right. Its great I can claim anything I want in it and say" Gods ways are higher than ours" if physical evidence is nonexistent.And if no one believes me i will say its because they lack "faith". I will include crazy stuff in the first half know killing people for tying knots on sunday,making a fire, things like that.then I can always say to those who dont believe that We have a NEW testament from me...Now you can ignore the old stuff because those rules dont apply now we are so much more advanced than those superstitious idiots. i dont want burnt offerings now just send cash.But wait I already said in the first half that my words are ETERNAL thats know what nevermind I dont think anyone would buy it anyway it is kind of unbelieveable.
  • Actually no. Here's a site on it:
  • There is no hardcore evidence for the existence of the man 'Jesus Christ'. first off, the gospels(mat, mark, luke, john) we do not know, who acctually wrote them, not to mention they werent wrote till after Paul, had his miraculous visions(which he was known to have considering he was a druggie) and he did not acctually see christ, he only saw a bright light & heard a voice!! Second there is only 4 known historical documents we have to prove his existence. The first three contain all but a few sentences, and they only mention cristo's which is not a name but a title it means 'anointed one' and there were Many people at the time of jesus who were reffered to as the anointed one(take Apollonius of Tyana!) so those cannot be taken as acctual evidence. The fourth one(and this makes me laugh whenever its brought up) was claimed to have been written by a man named Josephus, and that document has been proven to of been a forgery for centuries, it was written by a roman christian & forged to look like Josephus(who was not a christian) wrote it!! Now the interesting thing is that in the area and around the time of jesus, there were many people who we have historical documents from, now there is not one mention of the man jesus christ in any of them! For someone to have performed miracles, raised the dead, and was ressurected its a little strange that we do not have any mention of him, which leads me to decide he did not acctually exist, he is just another myth, that was created into a religion just like all the rest!! (I recommend you seeing "The Rivals of Jesus" national geographic, you can find it on google video. Its a very interesting documentary, even if a little biased, its still pretty good!)
  • Has Dr. Greenleaf ever heard of a historical novel. There are plenty of existing novels in which fictitious central characters are imposed into real historical periods where real historical names and events are used. That does not make the character a real person. As for Josephus, his histories were written near the end of the first century b.c.e., and that would make his writings between 30 and 60 years after the so called fact. Outside of the Bible there is not a single witness to the magical exploits of Jesus that was writing at the time that they are supposed to have occurred. I find it hard to believe that if something happened and it happened in a time when people were able to record it in a text that there is not one contemporaneous record extant.
  • Jesus did exist, cuz Chuck Norris exists and he round-house kicked him in the face!
  • There's more "proof" of that than the claim that littlemissme is a real person.
  • there are over 500 witnesses to the resurrection (jesus being raised from the dead). Also the 2 ton stone that was blocking the entrance of his tomb, scientists have determined it wasn't rolled, but rather picked up and tossed by a great force. There are also roman documents stating he was real, tried by the roman government, and put to death, and that he did in fact resurrect from the dead.
  • I do not think so. Even theists today believe that he is a fictitious character.
    • Jenny The Great ⭐
      Do you have any evidence to identify these "theists" and their Religion to back up your claims?
  • No, there is no convincing evidence that Jesus Christ actually existed. There are strong arguments against his existence.
    • Jenny The Great ⭐
      Funny how you forgot to add your "supposedly" strong arguments.
    • Linda Joy
  • One way to find out is to ask Him if He is real or not. But be ready to listen, really listen.
  • I heard one time there is more proof Jesus Christ was a real person than there is George Washington was a real person.
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    • ReiSan
      You heard a lie. That is absurd.
    • Venus1485
      No, Jesus is more comparable to Robin Hood than George Washington.
    • Jenny The Great ⭐
      ReiSan, how are you certain that Thinker heard a lie?
    • Jenny The Great ⭐
      Venus 1485, you cannot prove Jesus is more comparable to Robin Hood. How many followers does Robin Hood have in comparison to Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, including Richard Dawkins who is an atheist spokesman and his supporters who all believe Jesus walked the Earth 2000 years ago?
    • Texasescimo
      Haven't heard that but I have heard that there is more evidence that Jesus Christ existed than there is that Julius Caesar, Emperor Charlemagne, Oliver Cromwell, or Pope Leo?III lived.
    • Jenny The Great ⭐
      Texasescimo, excuse the unbelievers for they are in need of guidance.
  • yes cause he walked among us
  • No, here's no real proof at all. Skeptics have refuted all arguments that believers offer.
    • Jenny The Great ⭐
      How can you refute the credibility of Flavius Josephus not being a Christian, and still writing about how Jesus was described in the Bible? Flavius Josephus from A.D. 37 to 100 A.D. was a Jewish historian born in Jerusalem four years after the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth in the same city. A Jewish person then would never say some of those things about Jesus. As historian Paul Maier observes, "no Jew could have claimed Jesus as the Messiah who rose from the dead without having converted to Christianity." In addition, the early Church father origin believed that Josephus was never converted.
  • yes, its in the bible
  • If you open your heart and ask him be with you, He will come into your life. Then you can have a meeting with Him and proof it to yourself that He exists. .....He demonstrated to us that He was not the physical body, but that we all are Spirit with Christ Consciousness within.
  • Go to Turin and look at the shroud he was buried in!
  • The evidence is supported by the prophecies of the Old Testament, as well as by the Flavius Josephus credibility. There are many independent sources that attest to Jesus' crucifixion in the gospels. We also find Serapion in his letter refers to the crucifixion of the "wise king." Josephus writing within the 1st century refers to Jesus' crucifixion very vividly: "And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross." Not only that, Cornelius Tacitus writing in the early 2nd century in his work Annals speaks of Jesus' crucifixion. The Jewish Talmud states: "On the eve of the Passover Yeshua (Jesus) was hanged."
    • Jenny The Great ⭐
      A side note to address Luke 2:2 were there appears to be a contradiction: the New Testament was not written in English, as some people in this subject have it twisted to disprove the birth of Jesus. The word "first" in Greek is protos. It means "before." What Luke is saying: "This was the census taken [before] Quirinius was governor of Syria."
  • Yes! But you have to exercise faith before the proof comes.
  • He did according to modern historians like Michael Grant, Rudolf Bultmann, Will Durant, Albert Einstein and ancient sources like TACITUS, SUETONIUS, PLINY THE YOUNGER, FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS and the THE TALMUD. Hope I can reveal my source? Did Jesus really exist? HE WAS neither rich nor powerful. He did not even have a home that he could call his own. Yet his teachings have influenced millions. Did Jesus Christ really exist? What do both modern and ancient authorities say?
  • its in the bible

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