• Everyone supports Israel since they (illegally) declared their independence in 1948. Israel has a large stockpile of nuclear weapons but relies on the United States to be their attack dog in the Middle East and elsewhere. (It's weird that Israel was created to be the "Homeland for the Jews" and yet, more Jews live in the United States than Israel.) Ah...but that's another topic...
    • Beat Covid, Avoid Republicans
      If you ever read the Bible, yes I know reading is hard, you would have discovered that Israel is the "Land of Milk and Honey" that God gave to the Jews. They claimed is after WWII as their religious homeland which is in the Bible. God told them to go into the land of Canaan and "Kill every man, woman and child" Deut. 7.1-2; 20.16-18
    • Army Veteran
      You're creating quite a soup, dude. The command to go into Canaan and 'kill every man' has nothing to do with the Balfour Declaration or the establishment of Israel as a political state. Deuteronomy is 34 books before the New Testament even started - way back in the early, EARLY BCEs. What kind of hockey puck are you trying to hand me? (LOL). And if Israel is "the land of milk and honey", why are most of them bleeding us in the United States for it?
    • Beat Covid, Avoid Republicans
      The Balfour declaration was a device to get the Jews to help finance WWI. Nobody ever took it seriously. Also the Balfour declaration was supposed to create a TWO STATE SOLUTION.
    • Army Veteran
      Without writing a full-page novel to reply to your comment, here is a link you might enjoy that explains the Balfour Declaration. The narrator is not someone giving his own views or opinions - he was a former high-ranking Zionist who experienced it personally. He is also Jewish - so "antisemitic" doesn't wash in this case. Maybe for once, you might learn something: ¶ This also validates the "stab-in-the-back" claim that the mainstream narrative is so quick to debunk.
    • Army Veteran
      There was never going to be a two-state solution. The second paragraph of the Balfour Declaration was conditional. The Zionists were not to cause any trouble with the existing inhabitants of Palestine. For the document to be "support for the creation of a homeland for the Jews", such a condition contrasts with the apparent gesture of support. It was as though the Zionists had more in mind than just building a settlement for Jewish migration. ¶ What they had in mind was condemned in WW2 Germany where it was called "Lebensraum". The Zionist intention was to take over the entire country. The area originally allotted to them was nowhere near large enough to accommodate a sizable Jewish population, so the plan was to take over the entire country "to create more living space" (Lebensraum). The only thing holding them back was the British Mandate which enforced the condition attached to the Balfour Declaration. Britain ended the Mandate in 1947 and turned the duties over to the newly formed United Nations. Once the British Mandate ended, so did the condition attached to the Balfour Declaration. And once the Zionists declared Israel a sovereign state, conflicts began with the Arabs (Palestinians) that have continued for the past 75 years. ¶ Open Google Earth and try to find Palestine where it once was located. If you're lucky, you might find a neighborhood or two still in existence, but the country as it was before 1948 no longer exists.
  • They are our only true friend in the Middle East.
    • Army Veteran
      I can't argue with you there - corruption breeds corruption. BTW - the "Homeland for the Jews" was never really a homeland for the Jews - that was just a selling point to gain support. It was actually established as a political state - complete with the corruption that permeates politics in every country. Truman couldn't stand them. "Jesus Christ couldn't please them (Jews) when he was here on earth, so how can anyone expect that I would have any luck?" - Harry S Truman
  • (1) Is Israel an Allie of the US? - "Ally" - yes. Strategically: a very important ally. (2) What sanctions has Israel placed on Russia? None, for several reasons. This article mentions some of the more important ones. {{ }} (3) Or is the US meant to support Israel but when its going to cost Israel money they cant help the US? - Israel - naturally - must follow its own best interests. MOST of the time those interests are aligned with international interests of the U.S., but OFTEN they are NOT. This is one of the cases in which they are NOT. Just as most European nations refuse to ban imports of Russian petroleum and natural gas products (it is NOT in their national interest to do so), so Israel does not join the U.S. in implementing policies that are clearly contrary to their national and/or political interests. Now: IF the Israeli people at large demand that Israel join in sanctioning Russia, then it will be in Israel's political interest to do so and they probably will do so. In the mean time, they avoid doing do several other erstwhile allies of the U.S.
  • Israel is a necessary ally of the US. It was particularly helpful against the USSR during the Cold War. Arab countries like Syria, Yemen, and Iraq were cooperating with them.
  • You've got a point there in your reference, stevo. As the whole world has SEEN Ukraine being basically left alone to deal with Putin: Iran is doing what it wishes, and the humiliation of the withdrawal from Afghanistan hangs heavy in the international air. This is pushing Israel to ask if they can trust the US in wartime.
  • Right now, I'm not so sure any nation can trust the USA nor vice-versa. Israel has a lot of problems. Syria is having a civil war right on their doorstep. Egypt is still in a precarious political position. Jordan seems to be hands-off, but would likely side against Israel in any case where they are dragged into a conflict. Iran is not far away and Israel's obliteration is on their to do list. Several internal struggles are everyday concerns for people who live there. The UK and USA were Israel's biggest allies in the past, but neither of those countries seems to have the resources anymore to deal with such outside problems, and both nations are facing increasingly isolationist popular views. The odds of Israel ceasing to be are pretty low, though, short-term, but as longer-term effects are taken into account, there are multiple scenarios in which the nation might be displaced by another in the coming decades.

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