• OrangeDonRump
      then, that lowlife isn't an all-powerful god.
  • Of course..if you can create the universe from scratch you can do virtually anything.
  • Umm, in order for us to realize all his teachings and his plans for us, he had to send his son here on earth for us to learn from. Some of us learned nothing and that's why we have so much crime in the world.
    • OrangeDonRump
      then, that lowlife isn't an all-powerful god with many options at his disposal.
  • Yes, but then we would be no different than slaves. God doesn't want men to follow Him because He makes them, he wants it to be our choice. That is the whole purpose in giving men free will.
    • OrangeDonRump
      then, that lowlife isn't an all-powerful god with many options at his disposal to communicate what he wanted from people - many options can still make it their choice. You're simply lying again.
  • if he wanted to save us would we be killing each other in war over god/gods
  • Why blame God for what the people did?God prefers obediance to sacrifice. It's people that have need of sacrifice.
  • Apparently not. Assuming the story is true, that is.
    • OrangeDonRump
      then, that lowlife isn't an all-powerful god with many options at his disposal.
  • Probably. But it wouldn't have the drama. And we won't even know we were saved.
    • OrangeDonRump
      Nobody knows that now - nobody is able to prove anything about the christian cult's claims.
  • maybe be it was a lesson on life as there are stages in ones life where we all make sacrifices ,some hurt, and others may help it is all a part of life,+4
  • Once again, more questions that can't be answered, showing the fallacy that is god and religion.
    • OrangeDonRump
      Indeed --- 100% correct.
  • Of course.....evidently he wanted an unfortunate shock factor.
  • God is not a respecter of persons. If Jesus had not been sacrificed, The Father would have had to send all of us to hell. How could He be just in saving some but not all? If He allowed all sinners into heaven, then heaven would become another hell. God cannot endure sin. For the wages of sin is death. Without the shedding of blood, there can be no forgiveness of sin. God sent His Son to die in our place. Jesus created a path back to the Father. Now, whoever knows Jesus can repent of her/his sin and be saved by the blood of The Perfect Lamb. Those who do not repent will not saved. God created a plan that was merciful as well as just. I hope that helps answer what is an excellent question. +5
    • OrangeDonRump
      then, that lowlife isn't an all-powerful god with many options at his disposal.
  • From what I understand of the Bible, He didn't sacrifice Jesus. Jesus assumed the task of being crucified to demonstrate the illusion of death. The only thing Jesus came to save us from was our own ignorance.
  • We have always been saved, God doesn't want for anything and he didn't sacrifice anyone.
    • OrangeDonRump
      When ya got nothing else, then LIE. Thanks Sharona!!
  • No, the ultimate sacrifice was necessary to cover so much sin. AND, you have to ask for that forgiveness through Jesus, since He was the sacrifice. It's symbolic of your acknowledgment of His sacrifice and the magnitude of it to come to God through the Son. Can you imagine letting your son (who is part of you!)die painfully even though you could easily save him? That's an amazing sacrifice.
    • OrangeDonRump
      then, that lowlife isn't an all-powerful god with many options at his disposal.
  • GOD is all powerful and all knowing. In His wisdom He knows that without sacrifice there is no true atonement for sin.
    • OrangeDonRump
      then, that lowlife isn't an all-powerful god with many options at his disposal.
  • Someone had to pay the piper. The fact that Jesus died for all of our sins illustrates that while God had to acknowledge how how far off the path we had stumbled (again), he was willing to forgive us. One must also understand that Jesus did this of his own free will. I can only imagine how much that messed with his head - having to literally have the weight of the world on his shoulders. But he did it - and we were all forgiven. Unfortunately, no one seems to understand the depth of the sacrifice made, nor what it truly meant for us. This topic is debated to this day and probably always will be.
  • absolutely !!! pity the christian faith doesnt recognize this sort of over looked point.......
  • It is important to know as to WHAT we are saved FROM>>> We all suffer from eventually having to die... and dying is not part of God's plan. We brought it on ourselves, via Adam and Eve, They had no prospect of death...UNTIL THEY DISOBEYED... (Genesis 2:16-17) And Jehovah God also laid this command upon the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.” Before this, they would never have died... So Adam cost us death, which is what we suffer because of death equates with sin... So to remove death / sin, it was necessary for a price, a ransom, to be paid. So a loving God supplied his own son, Jesus, to BE that sacrifice... Jesus paid the have death removed to have sin removed...from those who are truly obedient... We will not benefit until after Armageddon, once wickedness is removed. (Psalm 37:29) The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it. (Psalm 37:34) Hope in Jehovah and keep his way, And he will exalt you to take possession of the earth. When the wicked ones are cut off, you will see [it]. And this will fulfill... (Revelation 21:4) And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
  • Question everything you're been told about religion.
  • Interesting question. In my opinion no. Why would Christ Jesus who is God do anything that is not the ultimate, most deliberate, sovereign, and perfect course of action? I think God demonstrated how much He loves us by giving us His only son. "For the wages of sin is death..."(Romans 6:23) It would only make sense that Christ sacrifice His life for us to live.
    • OrangeDonRump
      then, that lowlife isn't an all-powerful god with many options at his disposal.
  • well god,(as you may be realizing) is a drama queen. that funky bitch needs to dramatize every major event. no actually, there is no god. dont believe the primitives.
  • The problem with not being a fantasy Being is that He has to balance real forces, like infinite Justice and infinite Mercy. I don't know if there was another solution to that paradox, but apparently Jesus supplied the best solution possible under the circumstances.
  • Ever read the Old Testament? In a nutshell that's what it's about. God trying to save us from evil and death and sin. But man consistantly denied His direction. Even though one generation would do good the next would go astray and do detestable things in the eyes of the Lord. So, He gave us a savior. Jesus Christ. Now we all have a shining light to guide us in a world of darkness.
  • Of course He could, but then, there wouldn't have been an "example" to follow. 1 Peter 2:21 "For [as a believer] you have been called for this purpose, since Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you may follow in His footsteps."
  • Sin requires a blood sacrifice. Jesus Christ is said to be the Lamb of God therefor was the perfect sacrifice to remove the sin of disobedience for all time. Because of God's requirements there could not be another way.
  • Questions like this just help expose religion for being nonsense or totally contradictory. If you want people to believe ancient nonsense just get them to believe that exposing obviously condradictory points is wrong (or sin) because "God works in mysterious ways". That is a extremely weak and stupid catch-all phrase to "prove" that nonsense is actually the truth. It's not!
  • Very arrogant of you to think you're smarter than God. I'm old enough to see the wisdom in His ways.
  • Yes. This is a man made ideology. Read your Bible,then you will see this makes no sense. Alot of people think this is an interpretation of the good book,but I just don't see it!
  • Most people have no idea why God sent Jesus as a sacrifice because they've never really bothered to study the Bible. The word of God created everything and it was the word of God that says if you eat from the tree then you have to die. The word of God materialized as Jesus Christ. God can't just change his mind if he says the penalty for sin is death the only way to change it is for the part of him that made the statement to die. When you're on Earth your subject to the laws of men and the laws of men says that if you make a contract with somebody and that person dies that you don't have to fulfill the contract after he's declared dead. Not unless somebody comes forward in court and demand you to fulfill the contract. Well the word of God died on the cross people declared him dead and stuck him in a tomb. Nobody came forward within the allotted 3 days and demanded God I demand you kill me now for my sins. Lol! So a few days later after the required 3 days had passed to avoid the contract God the Father resurrected Jesus as a new life form. And since that day God has never spoken to human beings with a voice again. Nowadays God uses men his written word and circumstances to speak. And now we have a new deal instead of it being mandatory that you die for your sins. You can simply repent from them I'm sorry let me try to make it better here's some restitution and I promise not to do it again. So anyway that's the legality of why Jesus died. Now the alternative was simple Jesus could have said all right everybody has sinned everybody dies! He could have fixed it so that no more babies were born. Everybody on Earth would have died off. And God could have recreated the race of man if he had wanted to. Or he could have resurrected anybody that he wanted to.
  • When Adam and Eve sinned and rebelled against a holy God, everybody born after Adam and Eve was born into sin and on the road to hell. God never wanted it that way. God being holy demands judgement. If there was no holiness there would be no judgement. God being God has the right to establish the crime and decide the punishment. Sinning against a holy God means death. But God is also a God of love, and in that love He allows a substitute. Jesus is that substitute. Jesus died on the cross and took the punishment for the sin we should be punished for. Does that mean everyone gets to go to heaven? No. If you believe that Jesus is God's Son and is one with God the Father, died for your sins and rose the third day, admit that you are a sinner and ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins, and ask Him into your heart then you can be a Christian and spend eternity in heaven. 1 John 4:9-10, John 3:16-17.
    • Jimmy205
      Christians should really listen to themselves when they spit out these talking points. Parse out your statements and they make no sense. So much contradiction and dissonance. Use critical thinking rather than memorize religious rhetoric.
  • how about not holding the whole of humanity vicariously liable for something done by someone else? Not real bright that god character.
  • If there were a god, you may be sure that he could have "saved" us in a variety of ways. The notion that Jesus was a sacrifice necessary for our salvation was an idea that Jesus's shocked followers came up with after his death and that other people ran with. They had to rationalize his death somehow, and that's the means they chose. Sacrifice narratives and rituals were not uncommon in various religious faiths. I might also point out that the time was ripe for a religion like Christianity in the Roman world. The state religion was spiritually and emotionally lacking; mystery cults of one sort or another were increasingly popular. If it hadn't been Christianity, it would have been something similar, something else essentially monotheistic and salvationist. Such a faith was better placed to unify and control a diverse empire than a whole set of polytheistic beliefs, as Roman emperors eventually realized.
  • That story of sacrifice looks back to the Jewish concept of sacrificing, usually an animal, in order to remove sin. Scapegoating was a similar practice. The New Testament is full of Jewish religious practices and thinking. But to answer your question, yes, he could have, if he actually existed.

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