• Yes. It should be reserved for the ones its already reserved for. If there's something wrong with the law already in place it should be changed through legal channels.
    • bostjan64
      You mean the crimes for which it is reserved in the USA? I would assume so. I don't understand how China metes out the death penalty for financial crimes like fraud and bribery, or how Iran decides to execute an underage girl for being brutally assaulted. Even in the USA, each state has different lists of offenses that could potentially land a person on death row: some states have none, most have it only for aggravated murder (although what constitutes aggravation differs from state to state), and in Florida and Missouri - a person convicted of drug trafficking can be (but never has, as far as I am aware) be sentenced to death. Where I live (VT), the death penalty has been abolished for murder, but there is still an old law (although very much applicable if the state desired to use it) allowing death penalty for treason against the state of Vermont (treason against the USA is a federal offense, and thus falls outside of the state's jurisdiction anyway). So... your answer is extremely complicated. Is the premeditated abduction, torture and murder of someone in Maine less serious than doing the same in Georgia? If so, why?!
  • I don't. The biggest reason for me personally is wrongful convictions. It's irreversible. What do you think?
    • bostjan64
      To me, the state has proven over and over that it cannot be trusted to handle executions, and the American criminal justice system is so heavily corrupted that lengthy criminal sentence is more an indicator of poverty than of criminal culpability. Therefore, without other necessary sweeping reforms of the system, the death penalty is a horrible idea. Most countries have banned the death penalty, and a third of those who still have it simply do not practice it. China executes more people than every other nation combined. Virtually every other country that executes as many people as the USA is a place most people would find scary to live: North Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria. If the places where the punishments are harshest are also the places where the most people are punished, it calls into question the logic that harsh punishment deters crime. But, on the other hand, I think that people who are violent need to be isolated from society until they are no longer dangerous. A person who commits murder is likely to do it again. The most cost-effective way to separate such a person from society permanently is by killing them. But then we're back at the conundrum of incompetent people deciding who no longer gets to exist, which is a huge problem. Unfortunately, I think this is one of those questions that does not have a correct answer, only multiple wrong answers - and then people get in arguments with each other about which answer is less wrong.
    • AskingForaFriend
      Great comment! Is killing someone really the most cost-effective way to remove someone permanently? I've always read that it actually costs more than life without parole? In the US anyway. When I think of executions Saudi Arabia always comes to my mind first because I sometimes follow Amnesty International and several groups that help to get atheists and homosexuals out of countries where they are in danger. And then I think of China... what do you think about China's organ harvesting? Are they mass executing people for their organs for profit? Is that fact or fiction?
    • bostjan64
      It's expensive either way. Death penalty trials cost almost twice as much, but the average prsoner costs the state $45k/year. After about 10 years, it balances out. In Saudi Arabia, execution is cheap, since they just bash the accused with a rock. China has a mobile death van that picks up the prisoner and administers leghal injection. Chinese people hate to waste anything, so it'd make sense to harvest the organs. China has some of the loosest restrictions on execution

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