• you still have to deal with Karma
    • ReiSan
      Karma is a term in Hinduism. Are you a Hindu?
    • Arimatthewdavies
      Although karma is a Hindu word it's not entirely based on a false religion it's based upon the words of Jesus Christ whatever you sow that is what you will reap. In other words what goes around comes around if you do bad it's going to catch up to you if you do what is good that also will catch up to you
    • OrangeDonRump
      Jesus never actually existed - and nobody has ever proven otherwise. The question and subsequent argument are academic. He is a fictional character in a bronze-age & iron-age cult book.
  • 1 - If Jesus died for our sins it would surely be a UNIQUE deed - NO ONE had ever done before nor will ever do again. 2 - If Jesus died for our sins it would certainly be one of the most SIGNIFICANT deeds in all the scriptures. How come then, of all the things Jesus said, he NEVER said that he came to die for our sins.
      "For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him."
  • there you have it. he died for the sins of the jews. not the gentiles. gentiles have no sin. the gentiles cant sin because they are not jews. sin for the gentile is not the same sin as for the jew.
  • [They] have made dumb all Pagan voices that, without a doubt, would have cried aloud their testimony against the unparalleled imposture then being perfected by the Romans. [They] had almost reduced the first four centuries to silence on all matters of the most vital importance for any proper understanding of the true origins of Christianity. The mythos having been published as a "human history"--everything else was then suppresed or forced to support the fraud. Christolatry is founded on the Christ, who is [mythical] in one phase and mystical in the other. We who commence with our canonical Gospel are three or four centuries too late to really learn anything fundamental concerning the real beginnings of Christianity. You have only to turn to the second "Book of Esdras" to learn that Jesus the Christ of the [canonical history], was both pre-historic and pre-Christian. That's one of the books of the hidden wisdom which have been rejected and set apart as the "Apocrypha"--considered to be spurious, because they opposed to the received history; whereas they contain the secret Gnosis by which alone we can identify the genuine Scripture.
  • 'cause you didn't get a receipt...! ;-)
  • THATS A GREAT QUESTION!!!! thanx for asking!! the answer would be that he did NOT die for our sins.. he just died because thats what humans do!!
  • We are still paying for Eve, taking a dam bite out of an apple, for crying out loud. Jesus, didnt take that away either. Who do we write to about this???
  • The sins we committ are OUR sins and we should pay for them.
  • Romans 8: 1 says "There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." Therefore, if we love Jesus, we are NOT paying for our sins. He has paid for them. However, the world is still a fallen place, and until the return of Christ, and the creation of a new heaven and a new earth, we will still suffer the consequences of SIN (rebellion; disobedience against God), which are 1)a ruptured relationship with creation (thus there are sicknesses, natural catastrophes, global warming, pollution, deforestation etc) 2) ruptured relationships with other humans (disagreements, fights, wars, divorce, abuse etc) But the worst rupture, that of the relationship between God and humans, has been healed by the death and resurrection of Christ. Those who love Him and acknowledge his sacrifice for them, have no condmenation for sin, are set free from its penalty (eternal death) and are new creations. As it says in Romans 8: 38,39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
  • The penalty, or 'wages' of sin is death. The fact that Adam lived for 900 years after eating the fruit shows that that death is spiritual. THAT is what Jesus paid for. You still have to deal with the consequences of your sin.
  • We still pay for them because Jesus DID NOT preach Paul's gospel of Jesus died for our sins. Jesus preached the genuine gospel which was about seeking the Kingdom of God, which is like a "treasure hid in a field." If you have any interest in the Original Kingdom Gospel this will explain it:
  • Because a pardon isnt a pardon until you accept it. You must accept that sacrifice to wash away your sins or you will certainly reap what you sow. Jesus didnt die to help you become free to sin, He died to make you free from sin.
  • Actually, Abraham Lincoln issued a pardon to the citizens of the ex confederate States (circa 1868), but they had to swear an oath to the loyalty of The united States. Declaring that they would abide by the laws set forth by the Congress of The U.S. (even those laws set forth during the war). This condition had to be kept to obtain the pardon. So, maybe holding people to a change of practice isnt so bad. If you pardon someone so that they can go and do again and again what you pardon them for, why not just say there is no law. And if there is no law, then there is no order. We would therefore tell God how He should be for our convenience. How "loving" that would be, when He gave us life in the first place. You see you have freedom to choose, God gave you that. If you choose something other than God then be happy with it. Dont ridicule Him, Though, when YOUR decisions lead you to your chosen end.
  • The churches still need to extort money and power from people. They do that by fear and guilt. They can't keep doing it if they admit that the whole thing was a big fat scam to begin with, and they can't do that if they don't continue the fear and guilt.
  • Because since he 'rose again' we have been running up the total for his return
  • (Joh 8:24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (Rom 14:23) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Jesus Christ is the faith a man needs if he desires to be freed from the bondage of the fear of death.
  • We aren't still paying for them. Jesus Christ, payed in full, on the cross at Calvary, for all of our sins. No more sacrifice nor keeping of the Old Law is necessary. However, even though Jesus paid for our sins with His death, we must accept that free gift and believe on the name of Jesus, repent of those sins and become born-again. Romans 10:9-10 " For if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart, that God raised him up from the dead, thou shalt be saved; 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth man confesseth to salvation." Scripture taken from the Geneva Bible....
  • Because forgiveness does not equal absence of consequences. Every effect has a cause and sin is the cause of many effects such as pain, suffering, disease, emotional problems etc. Just because Jesus died and forgave our sins, does not mean that we do not have to deal with the consequences of our actions. The forgiveness of our sins allows us to have eternal life with God. However our life here is still subject to the consequences of our own actions as well as the actions of others.
  • We can only pay for our sins when our conscience condemns us. It takes faith to have a clear conscience. In Romans 14:23, Paul states that whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.
  • We all fall short of the Glory. When the Holy Spirit convicts us of a sin we are to repent of it. Some with little faith worry they are not all prayed up.
  • I'm not. Jesus died to pay the spiritual price and reconcile us to God. There is still an earthly price to be paid. God can forgive you for murder, but that doesn't mean the government is going to pardon you. There is still restitution to be.made.
  • To comprehend this you'll have to understand what happened to Satan before his fall. 1) Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity (wickedness) was found in the garden of Eden. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Then Genesis, God created the world Gen 1:1, he saw that everything was good, humans were given fruit and herbs to eat Gen 1:29 animals given green herb. Isaiah 11:6 harkens to a time that will be like this again later on in the Bible. God gave dominion to man Gen 1:26, God didn't take it back after Adam and Eve rebelled because Romans 11:29 "For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance." When Satan through the serpent beguiled Eve, by deception, he tells her you shall surely not die, for your eyes will be opened and you will be like God. In her action she disobeys and rebels against God's instruction, she loses her faith in what God says, and chooses to believe and obey Satan instead because she desires to be like God just as he desired to be more than God. As soon as they eat the fruit they are ashamed, prior to this they were unashamed, they fear God and hide from him. 1 Timothy 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Hence, Eve and Adam obeyed Satan, and Romans 6:16 says Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. Satan is the father of lusts and a murderer John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. He is the father of disobedience - Eph 2.2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Hence this is now Satan's dominion 2 cor 4:4. The reason sin is still allowed is 2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us- ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” A good reference is the parable of the wheat and the tares in Matthew 13. Hence, in order to reconcile to God through Christ Rom 5:10.2 cor 5:18, coloss 1:20 -21
  • Jesus and sins are merely crude fiction used to scam gullible people. This story line is so silly that it is amazing anyone could believ4e it.
  • cause we're still sinning
  • Because of new ones came about
  • The Bible gives us the answer to that question it is appointed all men to die once but then comes to judgment. All Christians still have all the problems associated with being born from sinful relatives. They'll get old and they'll die like everybody else. But they have one big thing going for them that the others do not those people will be raised to a resurrection of life and the little bit that we've suffered in our life will be infinitely small compared to all eternity of a good life.
  • When Jesus died for our sins and rose again the third day, those that believed He was God's Son and asked for forgiveness, their sins are forgiven. We are not paying for them. However, we are still living in our sinful earthly bodies and we do sin at times. We may still be paying the consequences of the sins we do.
  • Because he didn't really "die" for out sins. The Catholics are famous for saying that and its not true. Starting in Genesis, God asks his people for sacrifices. He wants so many sheep, goats, bulls etc. The more livestock he gets the better his people (the Israelites) live. They do well in battle, they get good crops etc. However, later in the book of Isaiah, God changes his mind, mostly because the Israeli's breed extra livestock for God's sacrifices so the people don't have to hurt so much. (God wants the sacrifices in the first place so the people will know who is in charge, and will obey him so they will continue to live and prosper.) So God decides he will send a special being to prove 1) That God exists and 2) the there is life after death. 3) they won't have to perform sacrifices anymore. So he sent Jesus to perform miracles and come back from the dead. After Jesus, God didn't ask for any more sacrifices. 😉
  • Jesus didn't die to "pay the price" for the sins of mankind. He died to clear a path for righteous people to enter into God's Kingdom - it is up to man to repent for his own sins. This is why man was endowed with the ability to decide right from wrong.
    • Beat Covid, Avoid Republicans
      By "righteous people" you mean those who recommend horse dewormer to treat Covid?
  • if you believe bible, it means if you live a good decent life and follow Jesus you will still go to heaven ..see any bad thought is a sin .swear word etc etc so jesus dying for all ya sins will save ya from hell maybe one will know til we are dead lol
  • Because - as you say - Jesus died for our sins. He didn't die so that no sinner would ever be punished in any way for their sins.

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