Reparations are a hot topic again. Three liberal Presidential hopefuls are pushing it.
Who gets money? Who has to pay? God idea or bad?
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Bad idea. Next women will want compensation for years of unequal pay, Native Americans will want their country back, and the native Africans and middle east slave traders will want their slaves back who have already been FREED AND GIVEN EQUAL RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY!! Where is the gratitude for rescuing them from the life they would have had there? Anyone who don't like the deal they have here can always go elsewhere. No other country is going to pay them for crying.
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Archie Bunker The first person to legally own a slave in the US was black. Does that mean that blacks now have to go back and sue his ancestors to get their money? And there were actually more Irish slaves in the US than blacks, even at the height of black slavery in the US. Do the Irish get money too? -
Archie Bunker Native Americans wanting their country back? And who, exactly, did they get it from? American Indians were fighting each other for centuries before the Europeans arrived. The right of conquest, which has been a dominant force throughout history, means that land changed hands many times through the ages. Indians didn't just pop up from the ground here.
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mushroom Irish "slaves" were in an entirely different position. Indentured servitude, while arguably as harsh or worse than slavery, was a limited contract usually about 7 years and did not pass on status to descendants. Slaves were "property" and descendants born to slavery retained that status and could be sold off to other masters. Nobody would argue today that the Irish had not fully integrated into society by the turn of the century. New York City had an Irish mayor, William Grace, in 1880. -
Roaring Don't know how reparations will help. Ending the illegal practice of Red Lining would do something more concrete at least from here on in. Post WW2 the govt even reinforced these practices where two men who fought together and gained mutual respect and economically similar were offered different opportunities in where to buy a house. Fast forward to today, one family passed on economic equity to their children and the other divided by ethnicity could only buy in non-white areas where property had no future equity. Even in the 60's if it wasn't for our church community's commitment to diversity a black fellow wouldn't have found a home in our area (to then go on to become a well respected judge) -
Archie Bunker Mushroom - Hiram Revels was elected as a US senator in 1870. A Republican US senator in Mississippi, no less. And black. And a registered voter in Ohio prior to the Civil War. The vast number of slaves in the early colonies were actually Irish. Irish were cheaper to buy than blacks. 5 sterling for the Irish, and 50 sterling for the blacks. And yes, they were sold. Right around 1650, the population of Ireland went from around 1.5 million to around 600,000. 500,000 were killed by the British and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. The women were often sold as breeding stock with the black males so their children would be distinctly colored. Yes, many of the Irish were indentured servants to pay off debts, but far more were actually sold as cattle.
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mushroom @Archie Bunker I suspect you wouldn't trust the NY Times, but Snopes says otherwise about Irish slaves in the US. I don't remember reading anything of the sort in school. What I do recall is about the Irish famine that brought millions to the US and Canada before the Civil War period.
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I am only responsible for my own action, not those of my family, friends, ancestors, nation, race, planet, star system, galaxy, etc. No one owes anyone a yen for events that occurred before 1865. That is an unfair and dumb idea. Only ultra-lazy people try to find ways to avoid working for money.
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Archie Bunker
More free money from the government. That's all it's about. A legal way to try and buy more votes. -
ReiSan
Buying votes is illegal. Imprison the people who do that. -
Archie Bunker
It is illegal, but okay if you're a politician.
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If there is money to throw around I think freeing the slaves that are in forced servitude TODAY would be a better idea!! Why do people act like its not going on RIGHT NOW IN OUR OWN COUNTRY!!? Why does no one care about them?
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Archie Bunker
Please explain.
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only tirne will tell
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