• In his comment on my brother's answer gnargnar asked, "where is he? so does he not age? extended life on earth seems like a punishment to me." John is wandering among us ministering among men as the Lord directs him. For the most part, he is not ministering openly among us. (The only definitive claim that I know of to his activities is when he joined the resurrected Peter and James to confer the Melchizedek priesthood upon Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdry.) He is still mortal, but he is no longer subject the the negative aspects of mortality that the rest of us must endure. He does not age, get sick, nor is he subject to the temptations of the devil. The only sorrow that he experiences is for the wickedness of men. It may seem like a punishment to you to have an extended life of this sort, but it was what John desired. He wanted to stay on Earth to serve the Lord until He returns and that is what he is doing. I am sure that if he ever decided that this was too much of a burden that he would only have to ask and the Lord would take him home. ************** "Science Geek: Wow, I am shocked that you actually answered this." Why are you shocked? What I have have stated here is pretty much what is written in the scriptures my brother sited (with the exception of the last paragraph which is my personal opinion). All you had to do is read them. ************** "brian_griffith: Glenn Blaylock: First of all ... you are absolutely crazy. Second of all ... if Mormons believe that you become a God when you die ... why is John still "wandering among us" and not a God?" First of all, notice how brian has to denigrate those that may believe differently than he does. I guess it makes it easier to dismiss those you disagree with if you attribute the difference to insanity. Second, it would be helpful if one actually reads the answer before one comments. Our beliefs concerning our eternal potential have been discussed elsewhere. So, I won't go into that. Where did I ever write that John died? If you read the answer, you would have noted that I say that he is still mortal. This means that he has not died yet. God changed him so that he does not suffer the negative aspects of mortality. For those of you who keep calling this crazy, why is is crazy to believe this, but it is not crazy to believe that God created the Earth in six days? Why is it crazy to believe this but not crazy to believe that God covered the entire world in the great flood? Why is it crazy to believe that God could give someone the ability to not age, but it is not crazy to believe that Jesus rose from the dead? I find it very amusing how those that disagree with us call the miraculous crazy simply because it is something that we believe it, but you don't apply the same standard to the miraculous things that you believe in. Is anything too hard for God? I don't think so, but you obviously do. By calling this crazy you are denying the power of God. Personally, I would not want to be in such a position.
  • Wow, an poeple wondwer why we think Mormons are loonies. Listening to a guy who saw invisible golden tablets with special glasses in a hat.
  • I stumbled upon this question about 3 years late according to the date stamps on the replies ... I will first tell you that I am not Mormon and cannot speak to what they believe but I can tell you that the other half of this question does indeed have a basis in fact more than anyone would probably realize. Nearly 25 years ago, I noticed what was being said in the last chapter of John didn't seem to match up to any commentary and that got me curious. Then the next question of Revelation 1:9, why was John exiled and then instead of just simply killed as was the going defacto "norm" at that particular point in history for church leaders. And then there is Revelation 10 and even more importantly 11:1 that follows it which is a whole discussion in itself. And then you have the last chapter of Daniel and you may notice something very interesting when you read it along site Revelation 10. These things got me curious and I spent the next 2 decades digging deep into everything I could find and all historical and archeological references and I was eventually able to track John's movements after Patmos for well over 12 centuries but then the records and the trail stops cold around the mid-13th century Europe which is most likely due to the last of literacy and records in the period in the region, didn't call them dark ages for nothing. Even though the continuous unbroken trail went cold (AD 1257), there are still some "blips on radar" so to speak with a few linking records and events in the 19th and 20th centuries and one very strong trail pickup again September 2007 in Jerusalem, Israel of all places which incidentally directly and ironically relates to Revelation 11:1. It would take me about 3 years and 2,500+ pages of typing to fill you in and bring you completely up to speed in all that I have found out along the way but to summarize a quick answer to the question: "Yes, there is very strong indications that John is in fact alive and still with us and evidence trails out there for those interested enough to follow them" What we have is an actual real life "Highlander"! ;-) FYI: And if anyone cares, he is not the only one out there!
  • SHORT ANSWER: Yes. LONG ANSWER: I had lunch with him, Elvis and Amelia Earhart at Burger King last week. But seriously folks . . . How did the Apostle John DIE? Q. How did the Apostle John die? (Submitted by: L. A.) A. There is no sure answer to this question because the Bible does not give us this information. All other information concerning the apostle John comes from secular history, primarily that maintained by the Catholic Church and should be considered with a "large grain of salt" because of the traditions of that church. I will present part of an article from the Catholic Encyclopedia to see what they have to say about the apostle John: "The Christian writers of the second and third centuries testify to us as a tradition universally recognized and doubted by no one that the Apostle and Evangelist John lived in Asia Minor in the last decades of the first century and from Ephesus had guided the Churches of that province. "In his "Dialogue with Tryphon" (Chapter 81) St. Justin Martyr refers to "John, one of the Apostles of Christ" as a witness who had lived "with us", that is, at Ephesus. St. Irenaes speaks in very many places of the Apostle John and his residence in Asia and expressly declares that he wrote his Gospel at Ephesus (Adv. haer., III, i, 1), and that he had lived there until the reign of Trajan (loc. cit., II, xxii, 5). With Eusebius (Hist. eccl., III, xiii, 1) and others we are obliged to place the Apostle's banishment to Patmos in the reign of the Emperor Domitian (81-96). Previous to this, according to Tertullian's testimony (De praescript., xxxvi), John had been thrown into a cauldron of boiling oil before the Porta Latina at Rome without suffering injury. "After Domitian's death the Apostle returned to Ephesus during the reign of Trajan, and at Ephesus he died about A.D. 100 at a great age. "Tradition reports many beautiful traits of the last years of his life: that he refused to remain under the same roof with Cerinthus (Irenaeus "Ad. haer.", III, iii, 4); his touching anxiety about a youth who had become a robber (Clemens Alex., "Quis dives salvetur", xiii); his constantly repeated words of exhortation at the end of his life, "Little children, love one another" (Jerome, "Comm. in ep. ad. Galatians ", vi, 10). On the other hand the stories told in the apocryphal Acts of John, which appeared as early as the second century, are unhistorical invention. " (The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume VIII Copyright © 1910 by Robert Appleton Company Online Edition Copyright © 2003 by K. Knight) Written by: Clay Willis
  • I do. But you couldn't prove it from the Bible. And I really don't see any what that it affects my behavior.

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