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  • That's up to the individual. Choose wisely.
  • Why do we need philosophy if there is religion? And why does philosophy need so desperately to eliminate religion as a point of reference? Its more widely accepted than any book on philosophy.
  • Religion is a delusion for weirdos who allow mind controlling people to brainwash them into bull$hit and lies. Religion is stress related due to peer pressure and causes psychological damage. Philosophy is an individual perception of things. Since we are all different with views, each person has their own philosophy and they are free to create and share their philosophy with others. Religion is meaningless and for shallow minded people who can’t prove their point while philosophy has meaning in which there is freedom that welcomes the idea of anything that makes sense towards reality. There is no need for religion because it’s full of lies and bull$hit. Religion is a corruption of the mind that religious weirdos fail to understand since they are shallow minded people.
    • Army Veteran
      Interesting that you dismiss religion as being "stress-related" and causing psychological damage - but you're so full of stress in your life. Would your stress, then, be caused by practicing your own philosophy?
    • notyouraveragedummy
      So, you're saying that the majority of humans since early civilization to today were/are weirdos, shallow minded people?
    • Linda Joy
      Philosophy is a delusion for religion haters. I'm not shallow minded. I have an IQ in the 120's which I assume is higher than yours since it beats out 90% of the population of the world! So next time try a different lie, cuz that one don't fly!
    • Linda Joy
      Good point Army Veteran!! He is always posting about stress and anxiety. He needs the peace that comes with understanding.
    • Shadow
      Army veteran, I don’t dismiss religion as being stress related and causing psychological damage if you read my answer carefully. I’m not stressed out by anyone. How did you come to that conclusion?
    • Shadow
      Notyouraverage, yes that’s what I am saying
    • Shadow
      Linda Joy, philosophy is not a delusion. It’s a way of thinking so you have the wrong idea. You misunderstand philosophy. There is nothing about religion to hate. It’s religious weirdos who have hatred towards anyone who is different to them. I never lie. I’m as truthful as it comes and I see things as they really are which you seem to misunderstand. IQ has nothing to do with it. It’s to do with having an awareness by using the conscious mind. When I mention stress and anxiety I refer to the damage that religious weirdos cause on others since they don’t realise what they are doing wrong. I have my own peace so you don’t know what you’re talking about
    • notyouraveragedummy
      Well, Shadow, humans are my family, my clan. I think I'll stick with them!
    • Shadow
      Humans are my family too notyouraverage. I will stick with them as well.
    • Linda Joy
      No, I don't. You do. You are trying to force your OPINION on everyone else and there is something wrong with anyone that disagrees with you. If you were at peace you wouldn't be posting questions trying to convince everyone else they are wrong, weird, inhuman just to placate yourself. Actually YOU are the one living in a world of delusion.
    • Linda Joy
      By the way, peer pressure is perceived. You can't feel it if you don't accept it. And people try to use that crap on Christians, too. Just like you trying to make us feel as though we are weirdos, inhuman, wrong. You're doing exactly what you accuse Christians of doing. Of course you will deny this, but that's exactly what it is! Ask your shrink if calling religious people names and dogging them out online is trying to exert peer pressure. You probably won't because you know its true.
    • Shadow
      Linda Joy, you do. It’s like talking to a brick wall with you because you are ignorant towards reality which is typical of religious weirdos. I never force my opinions on anyone because it’s wrong to do that so you have the wrong idea. Your perception of atheists is wrong as typical of a religious weirdo involved in their subconscious mind. You are the one living in a delusion and a lie Linda Joy. I take it we are not going to have an understanding in each other since you don’t take on board what atheists have to say. That’s your problem and not mine. Peer pressure is not perceived. It’s an observation as it is an awareness of what people are like and what they do wrong to each other. Since you’re religious you have allowed someone or a number of people to mess with your head by brainwashing you with religious delusions. I deny anything that is false such as what you say about me forcing my opinions on others. That’s not what I do. As usual religious weirdos get the wrong idea about atheists. I don’t have a shrink and I don’t require one. You should go to see someone who can help you with your religious delusions and face reality but that will probably be a never with someone like you who fails with reality. You probably won’t see someone to help you because you can’t see the truth in what I say.
    • Linda Joy
      I'm rubber you're glue! I'm not doing this any longer. You may as well be looking in a mirror when you rant like that. I have many atheist friends. They don't all try to force their opinion on me like you do. They understand its o.k. for others to believe something different from them without calling them names like a third grader and telling them they are delusional and weirdos. None of those names are o.k to call anyone. You need to grow up. I'm done with you.
    • Shadow
      I never force my views on anyone so you have the wrong idea Linda Joy. I don’t know why you think that. It’s your mind that needs to grow up because the religious have immature minds and being silly. I am already grown up as I am an adult and have the mind of an adult.
  • ONE POSSIBILITY (and it seems quite a persuasive argument to me) is the concept of "social evolution". That is to say: societies with certain traits out-perform and out-survive societies without those same traits. Until relatively recently, historically, societies with religion have tremendously out-performed and out-survived societies without religion (and indeed: the MORE a-religious a society, the LESS well it performed...until relatively recently). SO: it may be that the "social environment" FAVORS societies that are religious...or it may be that ***until recently*** the social environment favored such societies. The social environment DOES CHANGE, and we may be entering a phase in which religion is less important to a society's survival. We MAY even be entering a stage in which religion is ADVERSE to a society's survival, in which case we should see the least-religious societies (on average and over several decades or centuries) out-performing the more religious societies.
    • Army Veteran
      I've looked and can't find any examples of societies that do not believe in a higher power. They practice their religion in various ways. The aboriginal people, for example, are very religious but they don't pray to a single god.
    • www.bible-reviews.com
      See: USSR, communist Cuba, Maoist China (and to a somewhat lesser extent: current communist China) Many nations are dominated by religions that do NOT recognize any "higher power" (i.e. no deity), such as several major schools of Buddhism and several forms of ancestor worship...but in several nations non-religion is dominant, some by free choice (e.g. Nordic nations), some by indoctrination (e.g. communist nations, whether dominating only the government, such as the case with current China, or dominating the nation, such as was the case in more strict communist regimes)
    • Creamcrackered
      Hi Bible reviews, Those named all believe in there being something more than this life, take Buddhism, it believes that we have a false self that we are attached to and it is this that causes our suffering, this is why followers practice mindfulness. Same as Christ states that we are of the world, and that the attachment to this worldly sinful self has to be sacrificed and die on the cross with Christ, in order for the Holy Spirit of God to be able to dwell within and unite us to God. These beliefs are definitely not atheist in their being, although it says as little as possible to prevent the follower from being attached to idea's, the result is enlightenment to escape Samsara, and in death to find Nirvana. Same as Christianity's aim is to free oneself from the sinful self, and unite with God. Be it Christianity has a ritual side to it, most people don't realise a church is set out like a man, and the ritual going on, same as people don't realise that the Temple of Solomon was also set out in the shape of a man.
  • You yourself may find it easy to live a virtuous life, without the assistance afforded by religion; you having a clear perception of the advantages of virtue, and the disadvantages of vice, and possessing a strength of resolution sufficient to enable you to resist common temptations. But think how great a portion of mankind consists of weak and ignorant men and women, and of inexperienced, inconsiderate youth of both sexes, who have need of the motives of religion to restrain them from vice, to support their virtue, and retain them in the practice of it till it becomes habitual, which is the great point for its security. And perhaps you are indebted to her originally, that is, to your religious education, for the habits of virtue upon which you now justly value yourself. https://wallbuilders.com/benjamin-franklins-letter-thomas-paine/
  • Do you want to live longer: "A recent study finds that people who regularly attend religious services live approximately four years longer than average."
  • It's a good question, thanks for asking it. To answer it I'm going to distinguish between religion which means "the belief in worship of a god or gods, or any such SYSTEM of belief and worship. Philosophy means 1) the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline. 2) A theory or attitude that acts as a guiding principle for behaviour. So I question "What is the difference between Philosophy and religion?" The answers, 1) Philosophy moves away from "dogmatism," which is a character present in religion. Philosophy has a character of scepticism. This means that not unless something is proven to be certain (that which is indubitable or cannot be doubted) philosophy would recognize its validity (quote (Heidegger, 1956). Martin Heidegger was a German philosopher who is best known for contributions to phenomenology, hermeneutics, and existentialism. Phenomenology is the philosophical study of the structures of experience and consciousness. Hermeneutics is the theory and methodology of interpretation, especially the interpretation of biblical texts, wisdom literature, and philosophical texts. And existentialism is a form of philosophical inquiry that explores the problem of human existence and centres on the subjective experience of thinking, feeling, and acting. Existentialist thinkers frequently explore issues related to the meaning, purpose, and value of human existence. In the view of an existentialist, the individual's starting point has been called "the existential angst", a sense of dread, disorientation, confusion, or anxiety in the face of an apparently meaningless or absurd world. Here’s another answer for the difference between philosophy and religion:  the ethical and moral rules of the philosopher are not to follow an external obligation, (dogmatism) but are born from an internal, or “self” need, a result of experience – including the mystic experience – and of the development of the consciousness, slowly matured with time. Hence, many famous philosophers studied the philosophy of religion ie the existence of God, and believed in the existence of God, but did not follow dogmatism. The philosophy of religion contains epistemology, (the nature and scope of knowledge), ontology (the philosophical study of being, as well as related concepts such as existence, becoming, and reality), and the theory of value. So they are only different from each other by the ritual aspect, the dogmatic aspect of religion. I’d encourage the exploring and questioning of religion and religious belief, and any idea, that could actually prevent you from experiencing truth, or mystical experience but it's not for everyone. The thing that religion ie the systematic side, fulfils is the ritual exoteric side, that offers comfort and a yearning to improve oneself. This has been performed by the magi, the etymology of this is "skilled magicians, astrologers," from Latin magi, plural of magus "magician, learned magician," from Greek magos, a word used for the Persian learned and priestly class as portrayed in the Bible. Religion is an idea past down from generation to generation, aeon to aeon, and despite it's metamorphosis, the premise remains the same and points to the beginnings of civilisation, so it has an origin, as all ideas have to have an origin, and so these stories surround something that did happen to man. At the very least, that's what the written record shows us. On top of which there has always been rites and rituals, and secret rites and rituals, re-inacting something which has an origin. There have always been mystics, some go silent, some pass on wisdom without wanting to give the answer, so they prevent the person from clinging to the answer, and not having the experience. But there has always been some spiritual teaching, priests, and kings from the beginnings of civilisation. Even the banking system came from there, we didn't always farm the land, and we also learned to domesticate cattle and other animals, prior to this we were nomads and hunter gatherers. We built the Ziggurat.
    • Linda Joy
      "that which is indubitable or cannot be doubted" We once accepted that Pluto was a planet. We once accepted that 1+1=2, but synergy changed that. My point is that unless it was given to you through the Holy Spirit we really don't know. In fact almost EVERYTHING we have been taught could be doubted in an alternate reality. I still maintain that philosophy is for religion haters. That's why they made the silly rule you can't use religion or the Bible to explain anything or back up a point.
    • Creamcrackered
      We did think that Pluto was a planet, but there was something there we could determine by our five senses. In a numerological sense 1+1 =2. Philosophy does not doubt the existence of God, or the famous philosophers would be atheist, what it does, which I'm in favour of, is take you out of the ritual, or dogma, which is what synergy did for calculus, or what the quantum and string theory did for evolution, which basically then makes us aware of more, than we can possibly sense in our restricted viewpoint as humans, as stated "The mystic experience." I'm not disputing that you still deem philosophy is for religious haters, that's ok, however philosophy made of me a believer, because it was the questioning that brought about my "experience" as it did with some of the famous philosophers. If one searches for truth, then that it a worth while search. The reason the bible is frowned upon as a tool to prove God to an atheist, is because it doesn't, you can argue that it is historical, and it does demonstrate that a group of peoples spoke about experiences with deity and how those peoples conducted their lives, and as I said, the bible stories are also seen in similar stories from Mesopotamian, so showing a common theme from the beginning of civilisation, and so that correlation requires an origin. However, the bible was a tool, it was a spiritual teaching, a book of directions, that's it's main premise, and that's why an atheist reading it and taking it all literally doesn't understand it, even Paul in Galatians 4:28-29, demonstrated that the story of Ishmael and Isaac, that that Ishmael represents the believer’s first birth (the flesh) and Isaac represents the second birth (the Spirit). And you are right, almost everything we have been taught could be doubted, and that's why questions regarding truth, should not just pertain to religion.
  • Note to Linda Joy, the only time I've taken an IQ test, my score was 135. I never thought of myself as a genius. My area of special skill was spacial relations which raised my score that high. Of course, I've lost some grey cells since then but I still have a very active mind.
  • You don't need Religion, but faith instead. Religion relies on traditional ceremonies, cult memberships such as how the scribes and Pharisees lived. Jesus condemned them for their hypocrisy. With faith alone, it is the complete trust and confidence in someone or something. John 4:24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth."

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