people say that because there is nothing in this world that is so extremely bad that you have to kill yourself. You can't heal or fix the problem dead....but you can if you just try, as hard as it is............ to work through the problem.

No!!! Your life will get better!

Yeah I agree that it's a permanent solution to a life long of hurt... but for me I'm not sure enough of what happens after you die to do something like that

Because for the majority of people it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I personally don't have a problem with suicide, so long as the person realises it wont stop their loneliness it will stop everything. There will be no sense of relief.

Your questions have me worried. To answer this one, no I don't consider it a permanent solution. Since nobody has come back to tell us what happens when we die, we don't know if it's going to be blackness/nothing, better, worse or the same. If anything, it's just a gamble. The same gamble we can take here if we reach out for help.

Scrappy, I do understand where you are coming from. You know I've been there. I've had the pain, the depression, the suicide attempts. But I need you to know something. There is something really big happening in the world around us right now. Global depression. It's going to be very bad, like end of the world bad. You and I are warriors. We are God's warriors, along with other people God has trained. All this pain has been training for us. It has made us stronger, made us more empathetic to others. When the hard times hit, God will need us to do his work. And it's coming very soon. Stay alive for that, Scrappy. You and I have work to do. Trust me on this one.

Because with the right help from the right people (most) problems can be overcome without suicide. I've been to the point, I've had access to the pills, the though has crossed my mind so many times. But I sought help from friends, family, a therapist and AB. It's hard but it CAN be done. *hugs*

Scrappy, don't you dare go there! How do you think your uncle would feel if he knew you were thinking this way in your grief? Suicide isn't a solution to a lack of happiness. Suicide is screaming at God, "I don't trust that you love me, I don't trust that you have my best interests at heart, I don't trust that you can fix this, I don't trust that you will fix this." When you give in to the depression and grief and hurt, you miss the good things to come. If I had given in to that when I was in my twenties, I wouldn't have my wonderful husband and daughter now. I would have missed the best and most wonderful years of my life. I would have given in to the bullies my mother married who tried to destroy me by destroying my soul and my self-worth. They would have won. They would have rid the world of the child they didn't want. Guess what? I'm still here. I'm thriving. And they are the ones who are alone and lonely now, and its none of my doing.

scrappy suicide is no solution. You have no idea what tomorrow will bring. I know. I attempted suicide years ago when I couldn't admit to myself that I was gay....Had I succeeded I would have missed out on 40 wonderful years of my life...and they have been wonderful....sure there are ups and downs...but the good will prevail. You do not have to feel like this...a doctor can and will help you...all you have to do is ask. You have to know that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance of various chemicals in the brain...serotonin etc....You can be helped...Please ask a doctor to help you.

Yes I agree! I see you are from B.C. What part if you do not mind my asking?

well i guess thats one way to look at it, but i think its the wrong way. its the lazy mans way to deal with problems. Life is not that bad, and you can always try new things or meet new people ( and some may help you) if you think things are really that bad. Try a new job, a new mate, a new city, new friends, new clubs or groups, new questions on answerbag, or new whatever. Suicide to me is giving up without a fight at all. Never give in, you only go around once, so try to take advantage and hang in there as long as possible , until you die of natural causes. By the way, there are plenty of lonely people in the world, you just have to find one to make a new friend and end that problem for both of you. If you ( or anyone else) is considering suicide, call a suicide hotline for help. They can be very good I'm told.

It's no more anything. No more looking forward to seeing a new movie with friends, no more early mornings when it's so quiet you can hear birds singing down the street, no more warm bubble baths with a dirty novel... Suicide isn't a solution at all. It doesn't fix anything. All you lose is the wonderful things that ARE here in this world, that ARE worth seeing, feeling, experiencing every day.

In my life I have felt this sad but I have looked at my dogs and said you ARE the reason I choose to live. What would happen to them? Would they go to jail (Humane Society), who would adopt them? Would they make them live outside in the heat or freezing cold weather instead of beside them in a nice warm bed. What would they eat, I'm sure nothing like I make for them? I would ask these things over and over. I know you LOVE Scrappy, you need to stay strong for him. He LOVES you and NEEDS you, you are his MOMMY and you can never be replaced. Now PLEASE talk to a professional, I did and I felt different the first day, it was amazing. But remember sometimes it takes a couple of different tries to get on the right medication. I was lucky because the first one helped almost immediately. Scrappy's Mom, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, read this and find the support you need. Suicide... read this first If you are feeling suicidal now, please stop long enough to read this. It will only take about five minutes. I do not want to talk you out of your bad feelings. I am not a therapist or other mental health professional - only someone who knows what it is like to be in pain. I don’t know who you are, or why you are reading this page. I only know that for the moment, you’re reading it, and that is good. I can assume that you are here because you are troubled and considering ending your life. If it were possible, I would prefer to be there with you at this moment, to sit with you and talk, face to face and heart to heart. But since that is not possible, we will have to make do with this. I have known a lot of people who have wanted to kill themselves, so I have some small idea of what you might be feeling. I know that you might not be up to reading a long book, so I am going to keep this short. While we are together here for the next five minutes, I have five simple, practical things I would like to share with you. I won’t argue with you about whether you should kill yourself. But I assume that if you are thinking about it, you feel pretty bad. Well, you’re still reading, and that’s very good. I’d like to ask you to stay with me for the rest of this page. I hope it means that you’re at least a tiny bit unsure, somewhere deep inside, about whether or not you really will end your life. Often people feel that, even in the deepest darkness of despair. Being unsure about dying is okay and normal. The fact that you are still alive at this minute means you are still a little bit unsure. It means that even while you want to die, at the same time some part of you still wants to live. So let’s hang on to that, and keep going for a few more minutes. Start by considering this statement: “Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain.” http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/