• you still have to deal with Karma
  • 1 - If Jesus died for our sins it would surely be a UNIQUE deed - NO ONE had ever done before nor will ever do again. 2 - If Jesus died for our sins it would certainly be one of the most SIGNIFICANT deeds in all the scriptures. How come then, of all the things Jesus said, he NEVER said that he came to die for our sins.
  • there you have it. he died for the sins of the jews. not the gentiles. gentiles have no sin. the gentiles cant sin because they are not jews. sin for the gentile is not the same sin as for the jew.
  • [They] have made dumb all Pagan voices that, without a doubt, would have cried aloud their testimony against the unparalleled imposture then being perfected by the Romans. [They] had almost reduced the first four centuries to silence on all matters of the most vital importance for any proper understanding of the true origins of Christianity. The mythos having been published as a "human history"--everything else was then suppresed or forced to support the fraud. Christolatry is founded on the Christ, who is [mythical] in one phase and mystical in the other. We who commence with our canonical Gospel are three or four centuries too late to really learn anything fundamental concerning the real beginnings of Christianity. You have only to turn to the second "Book of Esdras" to learn that Jesus the Christ of the [canonical history], was both pre-historic and pre-Christian. That's one of the books of the hidden wisdom which have been rejected and set apart as the "Apocrypha"--considered to be spurious, because they opposed to the received history; whereas they contain the secret Gnosis by which alone we can identify the genuine Scripture.
  • 'cause you didn't get a receipt...! ;-)
  • THATS A GREAT QUESTION!!!! thanx for asking!! the answer would be that he did NOT die for our sins.. he just died because thats what humans do!!
  • We are still paying for Eve, taking a dam bite out of an apple, for crying out loud. Jesus, didnt take that away either. Who do we write to about this???
  • The sins we committ are OUR sins and we should pay for them.
  • Romans 8: 1 says "There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." Therefore, if we love Jesus, we are NOT paying for our sins. He has paid for them. However, the world is still a fallen place, and until the return of Christ, and the creation of a new heaven and a new earth, we will still suffer the consequences of SIN (rebellion; disobedience against God), which are 1)a ruptured relationship with creation (thus there are sicknesses, natural catastrophes, global warming, pollution, deforestation etc) 2) ruptured relationships with other humans (disagreements, fights, wars, divorce, abuse etc) But the worst rupture, that of the relationship between God and humans, has been healed by the death and resurrection of Christ. Those who love Him and acknowledge his sacrifice for them, have no condmenation for sin, are set free from its penalty (eternal death) and are new creations. As it says in Romans 8: 38,39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
  • The penalty, or 'wages' of sin is death. The fact that Adam lived for 900 years after eating the fruit shows that that death is spiritual. THAT is what Jesus paid for. You still have to deal with the consequences of your sin.
  • We still pay for them because Jesus DID NOT preach Paul's gospel of Jesus died for our sins. Jesus preached the genuine gospel which was about seeking the Kingdom of God, which is like a "treasure hid in a field." If you have any interest in the Original Kingdom Gospel this will explain it:
  • Because a pardon isnt a pardon until you accept it. You must accept that sacrifice to wash away your sins or you will certainly reap what you sow. Jesus didnt die to help you become free to sin, He died to make you free from sin.
  • Actually, Abraham Lincoln issued a pardon to the citizens of the ex confederate States (circa 1868), but they had to swear an oath to the loyalty of The united States. Declaring that they would abide by the laws set forth by the Congress of The U.S. (even those laws set forth during the war). This condition had to be kept to obtain the pardon. So, maybe holding people to a change of practice isnt so bad. If you pardon someone so that they can go and do again and again what you pardon them for, why not just say there is no law. And if there is no law, then there is no order. We would therefore tell God how He should be for our convenience. How "loving" that would be, when He gave us life in the first place. You see you have freedom to choose, God gave you that. If you choose something other than God then be happy with it. Dont ridicule Him, Though, when YOUR decisions lead you to your chosen end.
  • The churches still need to extort money and power from people. They do that by fear and guilt. They can't keep doing it if they admit that the whole thing was a big fat scam to begin with, and they can't do that if they don't continue the fear and guilt.
  • Because since he 'rose again' we have been running up the total for his return
  • (Joh 8:24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. (Rom 14:23) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Jesus Christ is the faith a man needs if he desires to be freed from the bondage of the fear of death.
  • We aren't still paying for them. Jesus Christ, payed in full, on the cross at Calvary, for all of our sins. No more sacrifice nor keeping of the Old Law is necessary. However, even though Jesus paid for our sins with His death, we must accept that free gift and believe on the name of Jesus, repent of those sins and become born-again. Romans 10:9-10 " For if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart, that God raised him up from the dead, thou shalt be saved; 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth man confesseth to salvation." Scripture taken from the Geneva Bible....
  • Because forgiveness does not equal absence of consequences. Every effect has a cause and sin is the cause of many effects such as pain, suffering, disease, emotional problems etc. Just because Jesus died and forgave our sins, does not mean that we do not have to deal with the consequences of our actions. The forgiveness of our sins allows us to have eternal life with God. However our life here is still subject to the consequences of our own actions as well as the actions of others.

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