Why is the US men's National Soccer Team not as competitive as the US women's soccer team? ⚽
12/3/2022, the Netherlands beat the US 3-1 in the World Cup knockout stage.
Soccer fanatics reaction: the women's league is not hard, the US men's soccer team is a choke team, more changes need to be done and we'll get 'em next time.
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My GUESS would be that men's soccer in general is more competitive because in many cultures (still) women's soccer is viewed as improper and/or unlady-like. SO (my guess is): there are a lot more men's teams than women's teams, and (therefore) the men's teams that make it into the semifinals (or whatever) are as a group tougher for other men's teams to beat than are the women's teams that make it into the semifinals. Of course, there's also (still) bias in our own country concerning this. American Football is viewed as a "man's sport"...but soccer: not so much. How POPULAR a sport is has a lot to do with determining how lucrative it is to enter that sport, and THAT has a lot to do with how many athletes in the sport are superb players. In many nations, soccer is THE SPORT...but that is definitely NOT true of the U.S.
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Professor Yaffle I agree with you, although being English I call it Football! As you say, for many nations (particularly European & South American countries) it is our national (men's) game but the Women's game is behind the USA. -
Jenny The Great ⭐ www.bible-reviews.com, I am not looking for a "guess," but a "structural" answer. Do you have a clue about the World Cup and the history of the game? The US men's National Soccer Team has never won a World Cup. The team also has never even advanced to the finals. On the women's US National Soccer Team, they are four-time World Cup champions. -
Jenny The Great ⭐ Professor Yaffle, what exactly do you agree with www.bible-reviews.com? since I don't agree with him or her.
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Professor Yaffle I agree that men's international football is more competetive, there are a lot more men's teams than women's teams. Football (soccer) is the most popular game in much of the world but not in the USA.
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Professor Yaffle As an indication of the relative popularity of the men's game The Football League in England began in 1888, the MLS in 1996.
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Jenny The Great ⭐ Professor Yaffle, I agree that "football" is the right term instead of US English for "soccer." American influence on Britain during WW2 made “soccer” the popular term that it is today. In sharing my take of the competitiveness of soccer, Europe is known throughout history to have the best competive teams.
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Professor Yaffle The term "soccer" actually has it's origins at Oxford University in the 1880s, when the two codes of football, Association Football and Rugby Football became known as "Soccer" and "Rugger." It has absolutely nothing to do with American influence. In terms of World Cup wins I think it is currently Europe 12 - South America 9.
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Jenny The Great ⭐ Professor Yaffle, actually WW2 changed the term in the sport's growing popularity. Once the football sport became more popular in America after WW2, the British stopped using "soccer." Possibly because of the American connotations. It's still not entirely clear. Szymanski’s paper claims it could be thanks to American and British news outlets pushing either term in each country. Europe continues to lead and dominate football.
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I think the Women's game is more developed in the US than the men's game. The MLS is a relatively young league compared to those in most European or South American countries. The USA men's team was 16th in the FIFA rankings before the World Cup. They made it to the last 16, further than Belgium, Italy (who didn't even qualify), Denmark, Germany, Mexico & Uruguay who are all ranked higher.
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Jenny The Great ⭐
It sounds true to say the US women's game is more developed with their recognition and all the sponsors they have, unlike other women teams from around the world, especially from Third World countries who do not have plenty of support. To say Italy didn't qualify, yeah, but for the record: Italy has 4 World Cup championships, Germany has 4, Uruguay has 2, Belgium has 1, Denmark and Mexico have 0, although they're still good teams, and have come close to winning a World Cup. -
Professor Yaffle
I know Italy have won 4 World Cups, in 1934, 1938, 1982 & 2006. A united Germany have won once, in 2014 although West Germany won 3, in 1954, 1974 & 1990. Uruguay won theirs in 1930 & 1950. Belgium have never won, their best result is 3rd in 2018 (The USA were 3rd in the first ever World Cup, in 1930). Neither Mexico or Denmark have ever made it into the semi final. -
Professor Yaffle
Incidentally, the Football Association (governing body for football in England) banned women's football in 1921 & didn't lift the ban until 1970, the professional women's league in England (WSL) began in 2010 & has 12 teams, 122 years after the men's league which now has 92 teams! -
Jenny The Great ⭐
I didn't think my question would turn out into a debate. I have to get on Debate Mode. :D -
Jenny The Great ⭐
Since you want to get into full details, Italy won the World Cup 4 times, being the second most by a team. And Italy shares the second place with Germany (no division in the country), as the 4 World Cup championships are held by Germany. Uruguay does have 2. -
Jenny The Great ⭐
Quote: "I know Italy have won 4 World Cups, in 1934," Not precisely, Italy won the World Cup in 1934 against Czechoslovakia, and not in 1932. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_FIFA_World_Cup -
Jenny The Great ⭐
As for Belgium, there is a Google error via YouTube that Belgium had beaten El Salvador in 1970: https://youtu.be/pldsc5BY9lc Denmark have been European champions, but they have never won the World Cup. Their best-ever finish came in 1998 when they reached the quarter-finals, finishing second in their group behind France. I didn't say Belgium and Mexico have come close to winning a World Cup. But by their popularity as highly picked favorites, Mexico's best performance came in the 1986 World Cup at home, were they won their knockout round with a 2-0 victory over Bulgaria, coming in 6th place with 24 participants reaching the quarterfinals. -
Professor Yaffle
1932 was a mistype. The first World Cup was 1930 and it's been quadrennial since (apart from when interrupted by WWII). No great desire for a debate, just answered your question. -
Jenny The Great ⭐
The 1934 World Cup is famously known for the World Cup that rolled into fascist Italy. While the world was in the death grip of the worst economic depression in history of the summer of 1934, fascist Italy hosted the second World Cup in what remains the only edition were the host nation was required to qualify. -
Jenny The Great ⭐
In my header question, I'm asking why the US men's soccer team is not and I repeat NOT as competitive as their counterparts. I don't see what the other national teams have to do with Team USA. It is good you mentioned them so other Answerbagger's can get some information on World Cup history. To this day of the US getting eliminated by the Netherlands, the US women's soccer team has 4 World Cup championships, the US men's soccer team remains at 0.
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The men performed well! The US Women's team might experience the same issue the Belgium men's experience last week. Other women's team such has Britain have competitive programs and their player might be younger.
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