ANSWERS: 8
  • One thing I've always said is, "the reason education is such a valuable thing is because so few people have one". The written word is an important part of effective communication - it's important to express oneself clearly. Correcting one's grammar is not "bullying". If people are offended by it, they should consider better educating themselves. Most browsers have built-in spell check extensions, so there's no reason to make such mistakes other than pure laziness.
    • Linda Joy
      I've said that same thing about common sense. Maybe not everyone can afford to 'better educate themselves', and maybe some weren't born with the intellectual ability to grasp these things. And a spell checker is not a grammar checker and even a spell checker misses the error when the word you used is in the word list. Perhaps if the grammar nazis are offended by bad grammar they should consider the fact that people are not submitting a paper for grading when they post online. And they very seldom ask for you to correct them. And I still think this is more often a controlling behavior than an attempt to inform and educate. But maybe that's just my perception.
    • Army Veteran
      You raise a few good points and I commend you. But bear in mind that for such people who are meticulous about their grammar, correcting people is a reaction similar to OCD. Accusations of "judging people" don't take into account today's education system that supports "no child left behind" and Bill Gates' "new math" that was designed to stupidify people. As far back as a decade, you had university students who could barely spell their own names. Yes, there are those with learning disabilities and this seems to be a growing trend - how is that even possible? How can people become progressively less-educated unless that's the direction they're being led? [] and BTW, there are grammar checkers out there. I use Grammarly for everything I text. And, the term "grammar Nazi" is just as derogatory as what the rest of the world sees as "bullying" people who can't spell. Like the $15/hr minimum wage issue, if people find themselves at a disadvantage, they should try and do something to improve themselves.
    • Chicagoan
      All fine & good, Linda, but I've already read a couple posts from you where you grammar-nazi'ed someone. And I haven't been on this site for very long. So, don't hold your breath.
    • Army Veteran
      "Correct a fool, and he will hate you. Correct a wise man, and he will appreciate you." - Proverbs 9:8
    • Linda Joy
      Chicagoan, I didn't claim to be on either or any side of this question. I admit I have corrected, like 1465 said from the place of someone who used to teach occasionally. And I have corrected in reaction to them doing the same to others. And many of the questions I ask are related to my own learning process and many times it helps me to learn where the line is. But you obviously only wanted a chance to be combative with me so why don't you hold your breath. Don't know why I would be holding mine.
    • Army Veteran
      The bottom line is that the only ones who complain are the ones who most need the improvement - that should speak for itself. We're not talking about major compositions here. We're talking about simple grammar as the proper usage of words like "too and "to" - something anyone can pick up on, but many are too lazy to bother. As for "bullying", the obsession with "bullying" came into vogue only since political correctness infested itself into society. Until we were told that everything offended us, bullies were little more than a local phenomenon usually found around schoolyards.
  • They are an annoying lot aren't they. I think they feel a moment of superiority if they catch a misspelling, or a punctuation error, or some other typo that annoys them. Reminds me of grammar school English teachers.
    • Linda Joy
      I don't mind them much myself. I feel badly for those they call out like that though. And I think some do feel superior to those they call out. But I also used to teach in the loose sense of the word and used to feel a bit obligated to correct such things. Now I don't usually say anything unless its so bad I can't understand what they are saying.
    • dalcocono
      YUp, there was a user called alberto on YA who was constantly ranting about 9/11 Bush, Iraq, Syria etc. His English was so bad that it was barely coherent. He was constantly called out over that, and it was easy to see why. However, some of the grammar nazis remind me of English teachers who went over a paper with a red pen or pencil putting in punctuation or misspelling with a lower grade for misuse of comma, period or apostrophe. When I see some of the text language and spellings in use today I just laugh because I know some of those old teachers are turning over in their graves!
    • Linda Joy
      So, just between you and me (wink wink) have you ever used bad grammar intentionally just to make the grammar nazis loose the cheese off their cracker? lol But when it comes to ELL/ESL I admire anyone who can speak a second language. I wouldn't be able to communicate much at all if I had to use another language! I did learn how to say "Do you want a meal or just chicken and bread/biscuit?"
    • dalcocono
      Usually not. That would feel like trolling them. Sort of gross. Usually it's typos that set them off on me I will often use the words "there, their and they're in a sentence to show how it should be used when they use the wrong form though.. Same with "were. we're and where". I can't believe those get mixed up so much. I never did figure out what alberto's first language is.
  • They believe that they are educating others. I sometimes welcome such online correction because English is my second language.
    • Linda Joy
      I would not have guessed! You communicate well.
  • It's "Nazis". * * * Now: do you feel controlled? Personally, I don't feel like I'm controlling you. * * * Bullying - is when you are intimidated by actual use of force or imminent threat of force. I don't know why someone re-defined the word to include insults, but that's ridiculous. A bully is the one who says he'll knock your teeth out if you don't do what he wants, or the one who DOES knock your teeth out if you don't do what he wants, and you (the victim) are unable to defend yourself against him. Insults are not - ever - on the same level as bullying.
    • Linda Joy
      I like the way you cleared that up! Good job. I disagree, however that bullying can never be mental or emotional. And true control is an illusion in most cases. My meaning was that they are attempting to control what you say and how you say it. And it seldom works, anyway.
  • Yes. It's actually a form of trolling if the behaviour is unhelpful or unwanted.
  • I heard someone today pronounce the T in "exactly". ☺
  • It should be "Nazis". (That was a joke, but also a valid point.) - - - Answering the question (while probably including in my answer some grammatical or typographical errors): No. It's much more of a "pet peeve". I like to read well-written texts. I was taught to write well-written texts. Typically when I read a poorly-written text (except in cases where the text is intended to convey things like character or dialectic idiosyncrasies), I feel that the text is not only poorly written, but also poorly informed. It's contrary to what I expect because it is contrary to what has been demanded of me. *** Now: there are certainly exceptions. For example: I work in plumbing, and when one of my associates fills out an invoice with very poor English, I recognize that it is a result of poor education and it doesn't bother me because what's important is to convey what work was done, why the work was necessary, and to justify the cost. If the poorly written text adequately serves the intended purpose then I have no quibble. *** But on the other hand - for example - when I'm reading a news article on BBC news and I find several grammatical errors in the article, and sometimes even errors in vocabulary, then my expectations have been violated and my trust in the article evaporates. In a nutshell: I am thoroughly disappointed and have the feeling that I wasted my time reading the article.
  • It's theirway of discrediting a person to imply they are smarter don't worry about what the person is actually saying. I like to keep things short and to the point.

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