I almost passed out when I saw you actually answered another question! haha Thank you!

How is it justice to the poor?

Its not. Its the opposite. Justice would be for them to eat what they grow, and if they don't work they don't eat. This is equality of outcome without equality of input.

So how is it justice for a wealthy agribusiness owner to take 90% of the profits produced by his workers and dole out poverty wages to those who actually produced what he sold? If there was equality of outcome, those who do nothing but collect profit from those who do the actual work would be living in poverty rather than buying $500,000,000 yachts.

@ pipey - What you're calling "poverty wages" is at least minimum wage, maybe higher. Minimum wage is an "entry-level" wage for people who are inexperienced and/or lack work experience for higher-wage jobs. If you want to earn more, then make yourself worth more - get an education or learn a trade. Anyone who supports a $15/hr minimum wage knows nothing about economics. You people have grandeur visions of more buying power. But that's not the way it works. Local economies are based on the average wage for that area and it adjusts itself accordingly. For instance, if you live in a city where manufacturing dominates the job market, the local economy is going to be based on those wages. Those who earn minimum wage are held down at the poverty level. Raising the minimum wage to $15/hr doesn't solve the problem because the manufacturing jobs are worth more than minimum wage, and those employees' wages will rise, too. The local economy adjusts itself, inflation rises, and the minimum wage earners who are now making $15/hr are back where they started - worse, actually. That's because since they're making more, they're also paying more taxes. This leaves less money in their pockets than before the $15/hr "windfall". And they're paying more for goods and services. If you believe business owners have it so great, you should invest a few hundred thousand dollars into a business of your own - then pay your employees what you consider to be a "livable wage". How long do you think you'll be in business?

you're my hero, 1465!

Mr. Bunker, The right has cast socialism as some kind of evil thing. There are forms and degrees of socialism; social democracy, democratic socialism fall on the spectrum and the United States is in there. The US is not a pure capitalist form. Where I live republican farmers cash their crop insurance checks underwritten and funded in major part by the government. That wouldn't happen in a purely capitalist economic system. Neither would small business loans, and so much more.

Actually single-payer health care systems are far more economically efficient and per capita health care costs are lower in countries with socialized medicine. Even conservative think tanks have found that overall costs would go down if the US adopted Medicare for All. Currently, roughly $2500 a year per person goes to administrative expenses. Under a single payer system that would be reduced to more like $500 a year per person.

Right

So right on BOTH counts!

���Capitalism is a social system owned by the capitalistic class, a small network of very wealthy and powerful businessmen, who compromise the health and security of the general population for corporate gain.” ? Suzy Kassem

There's a reason they're referred to as "libtards".

Kevin, Churchill was also a Royalist. He thought America should never be free. He also lost his last election.