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  • That depends upon what you mean by 'trinity'! If you are refering to the mere etymological sense of being in three states, then yes. "Each person was thought to have three souls, the "ka," the "ba," and the "akh."" http://www2.sptimes.com/Egypt/EgyptCredit.4.3.html If you mean the original pagan Trinity of the three states of womanhood: Maiden, mother and crone, then no. The Egyptians didn't worship women in a way that would denote a refernce to womanhood. If you mean the Holy Trinity in Christianity, then no. The Ancient Egyptians were practically always polytheistic and didn't have this view of the one and only God. I'm sorry for this next statement if it offends but I have to put it in: There wouldn't be an idea of trinity in Ancient Egypt because the idea was a corruption of the pagan view of 'trinity'. The early Christians, quite frankly, raped the pagan religion by stealing celebrations and enforcing that what once was reverred is now demonized! Let me have it with the bad reviews, all I ask is that you research what I've typed before you rate and comment, please? Leviz007: Saturnalia was celebrated on the 17th December, a full week before Christmas. Christmas was originally the pagan festival Yule. Which over the years was established as celebrating the birth of the divine child: Horus. Now tell me what similarities are there between the birth of Jesus and the birth of the divine child? That is why the council of Nicaea chose Yule as the time to celebrate Christmas, even though Jesus was born, according the most accepted theory, around the first of May. Look at the symbols for Christmas: the pine tree (pagan symbol for holding on during the harshness of the winter), the holly (again, a pagan symbol for holding on, if the plants can do it then why not us?) and the mistletoe (a pagan symbol for fertility in ancient Britain and not Christianity). If these symbols are associated with Christmas then why are they not Christian if Christmas is in fact a Christian celebration and not the stolen pagan celebration? Easter, or Ostern after the Godess Eoster, is the pagan festival of the rebirth of the Earth; the time when rabbits and chickens are giving birth to the next generation, the time when the flowers are blooming and the trees are blossoming. Again, tell me similarities between the rebirth of the Earth and the reincarnation/'rebirth' of Jesus? Most, if not all Christian festivals (excluding the festivals for saints because they are deviod of Christianity, merely celebrating the kindness of a person) are at the same time as pagan festivals.
  • there was only satan. the Lord had to bring HIs peeple out of egypt and away from satin.
  • There were triads, but even the Greek triads that were most similar to the Trinity were quite a bit different.
  • yes. Horus, Isis, and Osiris
  • 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Psalms 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. http://geocities.com/understand_the_trinity
  • First you have to discuss what is Ancient Egyptian religion. Over the thousands of years of Egyptian culture, religious beliefs changed radically, and who was at the top and bottom of the hierarchy of gods, was different from era to era, dynasty to dynasty and city to city. There was also much influence from the conquered countries, with their gods being added to the pantheon. Although triads of gods such as Osiris, Isis and Horus appeared, their nature and role in Egyptian religion was much different from the concept of Trinity in Christianity. They were never a trinity, a three in one, nor even tripatite (one body with three heads etc). They were three separate gods, who formed a family of sorts (though Osiris was technically dead when he impregnated Isis with Horus, at least he was dead, then revived, then died, then was restored and made king of the underworld).
  • I'd have to disagree. Horus was considered to be the god of the sky, and the son of Osiris. His mother is Isis. So in a Christian sense there was no trinity in the ancient Egyptian religion. By the way,the sun god Amon-Re, the Nile god Nut and the moon god Khonsu were also grouped as father, mother and son.
  • 1) "Evidence of an Egyptian "Trinity"? Before Christianity, no religion ever believed in a single Deity consisting of three persons. Detractors sometimes say that the Osirus-Isis-Horus family of ancient Egyptian mythology was a "model" for the Christian Trinity. Yet this is clearly a triad of distinct pagan deities, not a trinity in the Christian sense. The Egyptians never considered them to be three persons in one God, but as two separate gods and a goddess - among numerous other divinities such as Hathor, Ptah, Neith, Set, Nut, Geb, and Basht, to name a few. The highest deity in their pantheon was the sun god Ra, so they didn't even consider the Osirus-Isis-Horus triad to be supreme among the gods!" Source: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.brace/1THEGODHEAD.html 2) "Satan was worshiped in pagan civilizations under many names of both sexes and, sometimes as a trinity [...]. In the satanic trinity, however, the Holy Spirit in the Divine Trinity is replaced with a female deity, the Queen of Heaven. In the Egyptian trinity, Isis, Queen of Heaven, is the mother of the sungod Horus, the Antichrist who will unite Heaven and Hell on Earth under Satan, after defeating Typho (Jesus Christ) at the battle of Armageddon." Source: http://www.homebiblestudygroup.org/hbsg_passion_of_the_christ.html 3) "Osiris' evil brother Seth, the god of war, plotted and killed Osiris. Isis found the body of her brother and husband in a coffin in Byblos [...] and brought it back, but Seth found it and cut Osiris' body into fourteen pieces, which he scattered throughout the land. The goddess eventually reassembled them, transformed into a hawk and breathed life back into Osiris. The two would later have a son, the hawk-headed god Horus, who received life from his father and killed Seth. The myth's interpretation is its key teaching: it speaks about the immortality of the spirit, the immortality which can be gained by those who "resurrect the king" (as Hermeticists would say) in their hearts. It is the teaching of Christianity and of all esoteric doctrines, and another parallel between them is the existence of the Trinity in both the Egyptian and the Christian religions: Osiris as the Father, Horus as the Son, Ka-mutef (the spirit who binds them) as the Holy Ghost; Seth is the "divider", the guardian angel of knowledge who fell from the skies and is known as the Accuser." "the Egyptians used to represent their deities in Triadic forms. Thus, we have the active principle, the Father, the passive principle, the Mother, and the product of their union, the Son (the universe; in Kabbalah the Son can be considered Adam Kadmon, the spirit of the universe, the spirit of the Messiah) - Isis, Osiris, and Horus." Source: http://www.esotericstudies.eu/egypt.htm#e3 4) Some other Egyptian Trinities / Triads: A) - Isis: The Egyptian goddess of funeral rites, and is the divine mother and protectress of the Pharoah; - Osiris: Primarily the Egyptian god of the under world, but is also worshipped as the god of fertility, resurrection into eternal life, and vegetation. He is the ruler, protector, and judge of the deceased; - Ra: Perhaps the most important Egyptian god, being both the personification of the sun, and the creator of human kind. B) Nuit-is the night sky: She represents the endless possibilities of the Universe and is closely linked in Egyptian religion with Hathor. Her message is of freedom, love and the mystical bliss of union, as expressed in the curious equation 0=2. Nuit reveals the Law of Thelema and declares that the æons have turned in the Equinox of the Gods. Hadit: Symbolizes the secret individuality within each of us, the star that each person is, the invisible, ineffable and unmanifest divine spark which moves each of us on our self-appointed path of will. As such Hadit also represents the underworld, the infinitely small point, the capacity for knowledge, the partner of Nuit, and the fiery nature of underworld deities such as Blake's Los, the Greek Hekate and Hades, and the Christian Lucifer. Hadit is Nuit manifest. He dwells within each of us, he is the part of us that worships and seeks union with Nuit. Horus: The third in the trinity is the child produced by the union of Nuit and Hadit, the lord of the new æon, alternately expressed by two different forms of Horus. One form is Ra-Hoor-Khuit (Ra-Horakhty), a military aspect of Horus as conqueror and warrior. The other form of Horus in the third chapter is Hoor-Paar-Kraat (Harpocrates), Horus the child, traditionally the child of Isis and Osiris. C) Supreme Egyptian trinity: "All Gods are three: 1 ) Amun, 2) Re, 3) Ptah: they have no equal. His name is hidden as Amun, he is Re before [men], and his body is Ptah." Source: http://groups.msn.com/AGODFIGHTforallreligions/trinitiesandtriadsindex.msnw Further information about triple deities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_deities As a conclusion, some people, particularly Christians, prefer to use the term "Triads" to describe the triple deities as encountered in Egyptian religion. Then believe that the true idea of a trinity only appears with Christianity. Others people, on the contrary, support the idea that the concept of Trinity was present in ancient religions such as the Egyptian religion, and that it was just imported into Christianity.
  • Yes. Many anchient Pagans had trinities and many worshipped them. I hope that this is helpful. -In the Master's service. Thank you and God bless you!
  • If you really want an answer to your question about the trinity involving the divinity of Jesus, then here goes. Christianity during Jesus time did not teach that he was god. Matter of fact Jesus even said that after he was gone, many of his teachings would be corrupted. Notice: "I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and from among YOU yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves." - ACTS 20:29,30 "However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances..." - 1 Timothy 4:1 The Trinity Trinity (definition) – That the Father, the Son (Jesus), and holy ghost are all together god, each eternal, each almighty, and none greater of less than the other. The belief that Jesus Christ is god, is based on the idea of the trinity. But if you take a look at the history of this teaching: First the word trinity or the teaching is never found in the bible. Also the Encyclopaedia Britannica says that the belief of the trinity or that Jesus was god or was part of god did not even exist until two to three hundred years after the death of Jesus. The Encyclopedia Americana says - “Fourth century Trinitarianism was a deviation from early Christian teaching.” This teaching was adopted into “Christianity” from pagan religions from Egypt, Babylon, from Hinduism, and even from the philosopher Plato that taught the trinity belief 400 years before Jesus. Finally the trinity became the central teaching of the church not because of the bible but because of the order of the Roman Emperor Constantine who was pagan himself. He really couldn’t care less about bible teachings but only wanted to end the debate between church leaders to keep unity in his kingdom. After he made that decision in the year 381, anyone that openly disagreed with the trinity were violently persecuted or killed with the permission of the church. Back to the Scriptures After that history lesson In reading the bibles record of Jesus, Jesus never claimed to be God or any part of God. Everything he said about himself indicated that he did not consider himself equal to God in any way – not in power, not in knowledge, or age. The bible calls Jesus “the only-begotten Son” of God (John 1:14; 1 John 4:9) - First off, John 1:18 – “No man has seen God at any time…” (The bible says no man has ever seen god but thousands saw and interacted with Jesus during his earthly life.) - God has no beginning and no end. Psalms 90:2 – “…even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.” But the bible says that Jesus was “the firstborn of all creation.” (Colossians 1:15) Also see (Revelation 3:14) Unlike God, Jesus was created and had a beginning. - Notice another scripture. When a man came to fall at Jesus’ feet and then called him “Good Teacher”, Jesus said to him at Mark 10:17, 18 “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.” (If Jesus himself was god would that statement make any sense? Jesus always directed any praise to god, not to himself.) - John 14:28 – “The Father is greater than I.” (Jesus talking) - 1 Corinthians 11:3 - “…the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (The bible always talks of God of being superior in power to Jesus.) - Philippians 2:6 – “…Jesus Christ, who, although he was existing in God’s form (as a spirit in heaven) gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” - Also 1 Timothy 2:5 Says that the disciples viewed Jesus as the “one mediator between God and men,” not as God himself. A mediator is obviously someone separate from those who need mediation, not part of one of the two parties that need mediation. ---That’s just a short list of the many accounts since I did want to make this to long--- But the bible is clear and consistent about the relationship of God to Jesus. Jesus Christ always distinguishes himself from God and showed that he never desired to be seen or worshipped as god. That he only wished to do the will of his father. Consider Psalms 83:18 – “That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the most high over all the earth.” Isaiah 12:2 – “Look! God is my salvation. I shall trust and be in no dread; for Jah Jehovah is my strength and my might, and he came to be the salvation of me.” Jesus stressed the importance of his father’s name at John 17:26 – “I have made your name known to them and will make it known.” Even in Jesus model prayer: - Matthew 6:9 – “YOU must pray, then, this way: “Our Father in the heavens let your name be sanctified…” Another thing Many people don’t know that when they say Hallelujah, it means “praise Jah” short for Jehovah. Even Jesus’ name itself means “Jehovah is Salvation” The mother of the prophet Moses was named Jochebed, which means “Jehovah Is Glory” The prophet Joel in the bible, his name means, “Jehovah is God” The prophet Elijah in the bible name means “My God Is Jehovah” Isaiah’s name means “Salvation of Jehovah” Hezekiah, Josiah, Nehemiah, Obadiah, Zechariah and Zephaniah all are well-known Bible names whose meanings involve Jehovah, or Jah, the shorter poetic form of Jehovah’s name. Even many people’s names today have Jehovah in their meaning: Johnson means “Jehovah has favored” The name Jonathan means, “Jehovah has given” Joshua means, “Jehovah is salvation” or “Jehovah rescues” Jacqueline, Jackie, Jacquelyn, John and Jack means, “Jehovah has been gracious” Chanya means “The Grace of Jehovah” Kayla means “Jehovah has given” Joey means "Jehovah increases" Jesse means “Jehovah exists” Jeremiah and Jeremy means “appointed by Jehovah” Josiah means “Jehovah supports” Joe or Joesph means “May Jehovah give increase” Jane, Jan, Janelle, Janet, Janice, Janie, Janine, Joan, Joanne, Jodie, Joni, Jonie, Joanna, Johannah all are variations that mean “Jehovah is gracious” One last thing: Also remember that “god” is not a name, it’s a title. Just like “boy” or “king”, “God” and “Lord” are titles, “God” is anything you choose to worship. Your money can be your “God”, your possessions can be a “God”, but the only God the bible points to is Jehovah, God’s name. ---Explanation of pictures--- -The "Christian" Trinity was just a pagan befief that was incorporated into the church hundreds of years after Christ. The pictures are of the Hundu trinity, then the ancient Egyptian trinity, and finally the "Christian" trinity. -An ancient painting of the scene in Nicaea when Emperor Constantine made his decision-
  • Yes there was and it was Osirus, Isis and Horus and in that order [OIH]; not 'IHS' which is the mideaval monogram for Jesus; IH=J[e]H;S;U;S. This trinity paganism is not associated with Christ in any shape or form.
  • The term Egyptian religion is a difficult one because religion and religious ideas in Egypt were *very* old. Who was worshipped and how could vary from region to region, from ruler to ruler, from one time in history to another. I don't think the Egyptians had a trinity in the sense that we understand it today, referring to a triune deity. Well, except maybe for Ra, the Sun god, who was said to say ""I am Kephera in the morning, I am Ra at noon, I am Temu at evening." What they did have, a couple of times that I can think of offhand, were divine triads. A group of three deities. Not 3 in one, just 3 deities bound together by myth, family tie or function. Ausar, Auset and Heru (Osiris/Isis/Horus) for example. Amun, Mut and Khonsu were another. There were also prominent groupings of deities like the Ogdoad (group of 8) of Hermopolis or the Divine Ennead (group of 9) of Heliopolis.
  • There isn't even a trinity preached in the bible. It was entirely a concept invented by Paul when he founded Christianity.
  • Historian Will Durant observed:
  • Three gods all being one ??? NO.

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